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« on: 2011 Jun 03, 08:17:03 pm »

The article is broken up into separate posts - The coin investments list is at the end of the article

Dealers are becoming more willing to sell coins at cheaper prices to raise money for buying up the dirt cheap bargains that occasionally fly by. They're also accumulating cash in preparation for the upcoming auctions later in the year, starting in August. Many very nice coins have been consigned to these auctions already, and given the surprising strength of the market during this slowdown, I expect August to be an exciting month as the slowdown ends and the market goes crazy again.

Already, many coins are setting records. The interesting surprise has been with the 2001 D and the 2002 1 oz silver pandas. I started increasing the numbers of them that I've been including in my list, and I dropped a few hints too. I sensed something was about to happen to them. The increased supply of these seldom-seen pandas seems to have energized the market, and combined with a mention of one of them in this month's Pricepedia, it seems everything was right for these coins to take off. They were once considered common, but now they're really moving up!

The bargains are in the coins that get listed as Buy-It-Now's by sellers who are not away that prices have spiked from around $200 all the way up to $300 during the last 2 weeks, which is a chubby 50% gain!

A few very rare coins get listed, and sold at record prices. As usual, the rarest coins hold strong during slowdowns, but during this one, they're gaining quite quickly. A 1989 3.3 oz silver god of war & wealth super clouded claw NGC PF 69 UC that was listed on ebay sold privately for an undisclosed sum. However, the pricing advertised at the Chinese Coin Forum was $5150. This coin sold at least twice for about $2100 during the last month or two. It's the key, and it's booming during the "slowdown". I can't wait to see what it'll do once the slowdown is over!

An overlooked rarity is the clouded claw in a 69 grade. The estimates say that even though it's mintage rarity is less than the super clouded, it's grade rarity in a 69 grade is about the same as the super clouded in a 69 grade. For now, it is unknown which one is truly the rarest in a 69 grade. Mintage rarity beats grade rarity - at least at first - but later, as collectors try to assemble a set of all 3 known genuine varieties of the 1989 3.3 oz silver god of war & wealth, they will NEED a clouded claw. That makes the 69 grade clouded claw POTENTIALLY a very good investment, since it's much less expensive than the super clouded - IF you can find one! (There's one in this list...).

1998 silver large date pandas seem way too cheap to me. The 1995 1 oz silver micro date panda sells for almost $2000, and the 2000 1 oz silver mirror panda is already up to the $2500 level. The 1998 large date is riding on the enormous popularity of the gold 1998 large date pandas, and while it is also quite rare, it sells for peanuts! The last fair (non-bargain) sale was for only $510.

If I were to pick a panda that was going to make a move next, it would be the 1998 1 oz silver large date. Already one is being advertised for over $1500, but I doubt the seller is serious about selling it when there are others available for much less. Still, I think it is an omen. 1998 1 oz silver large date pandas are going to be $1500 or more sometime soon, and you better pay attention, because the pricing could adjust within days or weeks, just like it did with the 2001 D and the 2002.

A similar 50% gain on the 1998 1 oz silver large date panda would make it worth about $750 to $800, which is pretty reasonable, assuming no crazy 1998 large date popularity fanatics start bidding on them....if that happens, run for cover, because it could explode to the $1500 to $2500 level like the other rare, but less popular silver pandas.

Sales on 70 coins have done very well, and so we're seeing more of the recent date coins on the market. Most of them are 2004 or later. In pandas, the mintage greatly increased in 2010, so I don't list 2010 and 2011 70 coins very often. I've started listing the other dates from 2004 to 2009 more frequently though. The older dates are rarities that get listed almost every time I find them.

Also, with more 2004 to 2011 recent date 70 pandas coming to the market, watch for a plateau in the price gains of those. If prices drop, you may want to grab a few. Especially watch the auctions, where bargains sometimes go out the door without anybody noticing during vacation season.

That's pandas.

Other coins in a 70 grade may be rarities in any date. Watch for them. Sometimes they are ridiculously expensive, but they are selling! I'm kicking myself for letting a few go that I thought were too expensive. They're not! Chinese buyers are getting more picky about quality, and now that coin collecting is becoming more popular, there is a "status factor" popping out now too. People are taking pride in owning better coins than their friends and neighbors. This can have an incredibly powerful effect on market pricing. Today's $400 coin could be tomorrow's $40,000 coin - no joke.

Remember, even the "common" modern Chinese coins are actually quite rare compared to the coins of even far smaller countries. The 2010 and 2011 70 grade pandas that I'm leaving out of my list because I think they're too common, will one day cost you dearly to obtain. I'm pretty good with timing things - although I can't focus my attention on everything under the sun, what I do manage to focus on gets listed right before it does something interesting.

You saw it with the 2001 D and 2002 pandas. If you read my older postings to examine my track record, you'll see that it's not all that unusual for me to be able to time the market, even before people were reading my articles (and my predictions seemed to become self-fulfilling prophecies due to the much larger present readership).

Be sure to read the replies that follow the articles. Ask me questions, the harder the better. Make me think, talk amongst the other readers, and every now and then, I'll drop some info that just makes sense. That's your golden nectar for making money Smiley
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« Reply #1 on: 2011 Jun 04, 04:19:42 pm »

Table of contents

Not everything is in the table of contents, but all the important stuff is here.

* Recommended reading
* My choices
* NCS conserved
* 70 grade coins
* Proof pandas
* BU pandas
* Investment grade 1/2 oz silver pandas
* Investment grade large date and small date pandas
* Platinum and palladium pandas
* Other pandas and expo coins
* Lunar coins
* Other investment grade coins
* Helpful searches
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« Reply #2 on: 2011 Jun 04, 04:20:07 pm »

Coins sold from the Modern Chinese coin investments LIST #63 article

1998 1 oz silver large date panda NGC MS 69 sold for $259.99 Buy-It-Now, about half of what it is worth. You have to be fast to get these. Another one sold at auction for $510!

1995 1/3 oz gold silk road NGC PF 70 UC sold for $2800 at auction, which is a very strong price.

1979 1/2 oz gold year of the child NGC PF 69 UC sold for $3733 at auction, which is probably a record price. It is very hard to find these with an Ultra Cameo designation

1998 1 oz gold lunar tiger NGC PF 69 UC sold for $7603.13 at auction. Ungraded, they're being offered for over $9000. So, this sold very cheaply. Congratulations to the lucky buyer.

2001 D and 2002 1 oz silver pandas seem to be selling well at about $300. They made a sudden price jump pretty quickly. Just 2 weeks ago, they were selling for only about $200. That's a 50% gain, very fast! And, they will certainly continue rising... Sellers are still listing Buy-It-Now coins, so watch for them to get listed too cheaply by sellers who haven't noticed the price increases. Many are selling much cheaper in Buy-It-Now listings that are behind on the newly increased pricing.

1989 3.3 oz silver god of war & wealth NGC PF 69 UC sold for only $1300, on a best offer. That's a bargain! Congrats to the lucky buyer. These have sold several times for over $2000 - but, those coins were NCS conserved, while this one is not. Still, conservation usually adds no more than 30% to the value, so it's still a bargain, no matter how you look at it.

2008 1 oz silver olympic kite flying NGC PF 70 UC sold for $129.99 at auction. I don't know how this got missed, it's the most popular coin in the set (the key), and it's a 70! The 69 coins are worth more than double this price. Congratulations to the lucky buyer! You had no competition for this great snag!

2009 1 oz silver panda NGC MS 70 sold for $250 Buy-It-Now. 70 coins are hot, especially the pandas minted 2009 and earlier, because they have a lower mintage. This coin seems a bit too cheap at $250, so good job to whoever grabbed it.

1987 5 oz silver proof panda NCS NGC PF 69 UC sold for $899 Buy-It-Now, while another one sold for $1065. It was a good price at $899.

1994 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC sold for $995 Buy-It-Now. Nice price for the lucky buyer!

1996 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC sold for $586 at auction. That's dirt cheap, probably because of crappy photos. The coin looks OK though, so it looks like somebody got one of these for peanuts. Remember, the planned mintage is only 8000. Rare Chinese coins are still ridiculously cheap, and that makes them a good investment.

Several 2007 1/4 oz silver proof 25th anniversary pandas in both 69 and 70 grades sold at auction for dirt cheap prices. 70's are currently selling for $145 in Buy-It-Now listings, but you could have gotten them at auction for under $100. This is a bad time to sell at auction, but a great time to buy. The 69's sold for as low as $46! The 69's have previously sold for around $200, so congratulations to everyone buying these up at such low prices.

PCGS coins still seem to be occasionally selling cheaper than NGC coins, especially for silver.

1989 22 g silver Chinese historical figures Kublai Khan original NGC PF 69 UC sold for $355.01 at auction, which is good to see. It's still cheap, but clearly the rarity of these in investment grades is finally being recognized.

A lot of rare, expensive, but reasonably priced unicorns did not sell.



2004 1/2 oz palladium panda NGC PF 69 UC $883.99 auction.
1997 1 oz silver proof unicorn NCS NGC PF 69 UC $560 auction.
1985 1/3 oz gold Chinese historical figures Confucius NGC PF 69 UC $1550 auction. PandaAmerica problems.
1989 1/4 oz gold PRC 40th anniversary NGC PF 69 UC $1133.88 auction. PandaAmerica problems.
1980 8 g gold olympic skiing NGC PF 69 UC $1428.50 auction.
1986 24 g silver empress of china clipper ship NGC MS 69 $139.95 Buy-It-Now.
2010 1 oz silver Shanghai mint 90th anniversary panda NGC MS 69 $305 auction.
1995 22 g silver Chinese traditional culture pagoda of six harmonies NGC PF 69 UC $222.50 auction.
1998 1 oz silver large date panda NGC MS 69 $259.99 Buy-It-Now.
1986 24 g silver empress of china clipper ship NGC MS 69 $149.95 Buy-It-Now.
1993 1/10 oz gold invention & discovery fu lu shu NGC MS 69 $425 auction.
1996 1/20 oz, 1/10 oz, 1/4 oz gold proof unicorn 4 coin set NGC PF 69 UC $2950 auction.
1995 1/3 oz gold silk road NGC PF 70 UC $2800 auction.
1979 1/2 oz gold year of the child NGC PF 69 UC $3733 auction.
1998 1 oz gold lunar tiger NGC PF 69 UC $7603.13 auction.
2002 1 oz silver panda NGC MS 69 $295 auction.
2002 1 oz silver panda NGC MS 69 $299 Buy-It-Now.
2007 1/4 oz silver proof 25th anniversary 1989 & 1990 panda 2 coin set NGC PF 70 UC $280 Buy-It-Now.
2009 5 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC $750 best offer.
2010 5 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC $700 best offer.
1992 1/10 oz gold Sino-Japanese friendship panda NGC PF 69 UC $649.99 Buy-It-Now.
2002 1 oz silver panda NGC MS 69 $249.99 Buy-It-Now.
2009 1 oz silver 30th anniversary panda NGC MS 70 $306.01 auction.
1989 3.3 oz silver god of war & wealth NGC PF 69 UC $1300 best offer.
1986 24 g silver empress of china clipper ship NGC MS 69 $149.95 Buy-It-Now.
2002 1 oz silver panda NGC MS 69 $249.99 Buy-It-Now.
1997 27 g silver romance of the three kingdoms 4 coin set NGC PF 69 UC $1695 Buy-It-Now.
2007 1/4 oz silver proof 25th anniversary 1992 panda NGC PF 70 UC $145 Buy-It-Now.
2003 1 oz silver panda NGC MS 70 $504 auction.
2005 1 oz silver panda NGC MS 70 $305 auction.
2005 1 oz silver panda NGC MS 70 $305 auction.
2007 1/4 oz silver proof 25th anniversary 2004 panda NGC PF 70 UC $145 Buy-It-Now.
2008 1 oz silver olympic kite flying NGC PF 70 UC $129.99 auction.
2008 1 oz silver panda NGC MS 70 $400 Buy-It-Now.
2009 1 oz silver panda NGC MS 70 $250 Buy-It-Now.
1985 27 g silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC $2224 auction.
1987 5 oz silver proof panda NCS NGC PF 69 UC $899 Buy-It-Now.
1987 5 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC $1065 best offer.
1987 1 oz gold proof panda NGC PF 69 UC $2698 Buy-It-Now.
1991 1/20 oz gold proof panda PCGS PR 69 DCAM $400 best offer.
1991 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC $535 auction.
1993 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC $515.55 auction.
1994 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC $921.54 auction.
1994 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC $995 Buy-It-Now.
1996 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC $586 auction.
2007 1/4 oz silver proof 25th anniversary 1991 panda NGC PF 70 UC $104.49 auction.
2007 1/4 oz silver proof 25th anniversary 1995 panda NGC PF 70 UC $86 auction.
2007 1/4 oz silver proof 25th anniversary 1986 panda PCGS PR 69 DCAM $46 auction.
2007 1/4 oz silver proof 25th anniversary 1984 panda PCGS PR 69 DCAM $81.89 auction.
2007 1/4 oz silver proof 25th anniversary 1985 panda PCGS PR 69 DCAM $77.99 auction.
2007 1/4 oz silver proof 25th anniversary 1992 panda PCGS PR 69 DCAM $58 auction.
2007 1/4 oz silver proof 25th anniversary 1991 panda PCGS PR 69 DCAM $55 auction.
2007 1/4 oz silver proof 25th anniversary 2007 panda PCGS PR 69 DCAM $57.73 auction.
2007 1/4 oz silver proof 25th anniversary 1990 panda PCGS PR 69 DCAM $87.89 auction.
2007 1/4 oz silver proof 25th anniversary 1995 panda PCGS PR 69 DCAM $63 auction.
2007 1/4 oz silver proof 25th anniversary 2000 panda PCGS PR 69 DCAM $89.89 auction.
2007 1/4 oz silver proof 25th anniversary 2001 2002 panda PCGS PR 69 DCAM $67 auction.
2007 1/4 oz silver proof 25th anniversary 2003 panda PCGS PR 69 DCAM $61 auction.
2007 1/4 oz silver proof 25th anniversary 2005 panda PCGS PR 69 DCAM $71 auction.
2007 1/4 oz silver proof 25th anniversary 2006 panda PCGS PR 69 DCAM $71 auction.
2007 1/4 oz silver proof 25th anniversary 1999 panda PCGS PR 69 DCAM $73.56 auction.
2007 1/4 oz silver proof 25th anniversary 1997 panda PCGS PR 69 DCAM $49.73 auction.
2007 1/4 oz silver proof 25th anniversary 1998 panda PCGS PR 69 DCAM $49.73 auction.
2007 1/4 oz silver proof 25th anniversary 1996 panda PCGS PR 69 DCAM $49.73 auction.
1982 1/4 oz gold panda NGC MS 69 $545 auction.
1998 1 oz silver large date panda NGC MS 69 $510 auction.
1999 1 oz gold large date serif 1 panda NGC MS 69 $4003 auction.
2001 D 1 oz silver panda NGC MS 69 $260 Buy-It-Now.
2001 D 1 oz silver panda PCGS MS 69 $300 auction.
2001 D 1 oz silver panda NGC MS 69 $290.99 Buy-It-Now.
2001 D 1 oz silver panda NGC MS 69 $245 Buy-It-Now.
2002 1 oz silver panda NGC MS 69 $299.99 auction.
1993 1/10 oz platinum panda PCGS PR 69 DCAM $1743.01 auction.
1988 1 oz silver lunar dragon $950 Buy-It-Now.
1992 15 g silver lunar monkey NGC PF 69 UC $433 auction.
1993 2/3 oz silver scallop plum blossom flower lunar rooster NGC PF 69 UC $605 auction.
1999 1 oz silver lunar rabbit NGC PF 69 UC $731 auction.
2001 2/3 oz silver scallop plum blossom flower lunar snake $499 auction.
1980 12 g copper olympic piedfort archery PCGS PR 69 DCAM $2655.58 auction.
1980 18 g copper olympic piedfort wrestling NGC PF 69 CA $2025 auction.
1980 24 g copper olympic piedfort equestrian NGC PF 69 CA $2125 auction.
1980 12 g copper olympic equestrian NGC PF 69 CA $343 auction.
1986 24 g silver empress of china clipper ship NGC MS 69 139.95 Buy-It-Now.
1986 24 g silver empress of china clipper ship PCGS MS 69 $125.69 auction.
1989 22 g silver Chinese historical figures Kublai Khan original NGC PF 69 UC $355.01 auction.
1995 1/2 oz gold yellow river culture NGC PF 69 UC $6100 auction.
1995 1/3 oz gold silk road NGC PF 69 UC $1350 auction.
1996 1/3 oz gold silk road NGC PF 69 UC $1505 auction.
1998 1 oz silver dragon culture NCS NGC MS 69 UC $142.55 auction.
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« Reply #3 on: 2011 Jun 04, 04:20:24 pm »

Chinese coins are better





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« Reply #4 on: 2011 Jun 04, 04:20:44 pm »

Sell your coins on LBC or CCF forums

The Chinese coin marketplace on LBC is a topic started by groovemachine for selling coins amongst LBC members. It's been around for a while now, and seems to be getting interesting, so I figured I would mention it here. Ebay is by far the best place to buy and sell coins, but sometimes it's interesting to see what's been posted over there.

There's also a similar place at the CCF
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« Reply #5 on: 2011 Jun 04, 04:21:00 pm »

Register, read replies, get NOTIFICATIONS, access drafts

Always come back to check the replies on these articles. That's where most of the good stuff is! Register on the forums and click the "NOTIFY" button on this article to receive email notifications of new replies that may make some easy money for the first person to read it. Many of the best coins only last for a few minutes or seconds before somebody grabs them. If you get notified of replies, you'll be able to see anything new that I list right when I list it. You'll also stay informed of the hot topics, and see what other people are talking about buying.

Also, once you're registered on the forums, you can access the drafts forum where I post stuff I'm working on. Having access to my drafts lets you see the good stuff before anybody else - sometimes only minutes before, and sometimes more than a week before! You'll have valuable advanced information before the rest of the market gets it! Of course, you MUST click on the "NOTIFY" button for the drafts forum if you want to receive an instant notification that a draft has been posted.

Finally, you'll want to stay up-to-date on my postings, so click the "NOTIFY" button on my blog forum. You may want to take a look there from time to time, especially to read my older postings that are packed with valuable money-making information. If you're wondering if I'm worth listening to, you can see a list of my articles sorted by date. Check out the older ones to see my track record at predicting the markets. It's impressive, if I do say so myself. No one on the planet as a track record like mine. You can trust my predictions, they're always right!
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« Reply #6 on: 2011 Jun 04, 04:21:17 pm »

NCS and NGC need to help buyers find conserved coins for long term investment

I've talked a lot about NCS conservation of silver coins, especially the ones with the highest grades that were graded in the past. Coins that were not conserved before grading could degrade over time as invisible residues corrode their surfaces. That could make your investments virtually worthless!

There are nuances to which coins are worrisome, and which aren't, so I've recommended coins that look good despite not knowing whether they've been conserved or not. For example, an old silver coin that still looks good after many years is probably OK, and a newer panda that came from modern PVC-free packaging is probably OK too. But, the only way to know for sure is to only buy coins that have been conserved before grading.

Sadly, NCS and NGC continue to refuse to indicate on the holders if a coin has been conserved, even if requested. I have begged them to let me buy coins that I know will not become hunks of scrap metal over time, and they won't listen to me - just one person - but they will listen to the market as a whole. That means you. Everyone needs to contact NCS and tell them you want to buy coins that you know have been conserved. Tell them that you want to buy coins that NGC marks as conserved on their holders. Here's the person to contact:

Craig Fiumara
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Operations Manager
Phone 866-627-2646  Ext. 145
Fax 941-360-2559
CraigF@NCScoin.com

Once we persuade them that we want to know that our coins are safe, they will obey our demands and start marking the conserved coins. Only then can we be reasonably certain (but never 100%) that our investments will not become worthless over time.

NCS conserved certificates?

What if NCS started selling certificates that said that a coin had been conserved? Would you want one for each of your coins, so you could prove to a buyer that your coins are professionally conserved? It's been impossible so far to persuade NCS and NGC to start labeling conserved coins. But, they may be willing to produce certificates, especially if it earns them a little extra money.

Prices earned by sellers have been significantly better for the coins they advertise as NCS conserved. When buyers have a choice between 2 coins, one that's cheaper, but not NCS conserved, and one that's significantly more expensive, but has been NCS conserved, the buyers almost always choose the NCS coins first. Once those are gone, then the unconserved coins start selling again.

Many of the sellers are able to provide paperwork to show that a coin has been conserved, and the seller's reputation leads to buyers trusting sellers when they say the coins are conserved. But what about the buyer when it comes time to sell? It would be very helpful if they had a certificate from NCS that says for certain that a coin has been conserved. It would add value to the coins when they initially sell from a dealer, and it will also make it easier for the buyer to sell later too.

Further down in this article is Craig Fiumara's contact information at NCS. It would be helpful to make this possibility a reality if you told him you'd like to buy conservation certificates for your coins.
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« Reply #7 on: 2011 Jun 04, 04:21:33 pm »

Recommended reading

Here's some recent articles of mine that can provide some guidance for investing in the current and coming market conditions:

* LBC makes me rich
* Wealth preservation: USA vs. China (By Zerosum)
* Coins are the hot new investment
* How high will the Chinese coin market go?
* 5 criteria to determine if a coin is a good investment
* 13 coin facts to learn for beginning investors of modern Chinese coins
* My First Chinese Panda Coin Purchase (By Tamo42)
* Modern Chinese coin investment strategy
* Don't be the "whale" that pays too much for an investment coin
* Modern Chinese coin commentary and market predictions - 2010-Dec-15
* What makes people buy up all the Chinese panda coins?
* Investing in rare modern Chinese coins, some questions answered
* Cash is king for 2011 - Get ready for the coming bargain hunt
* Foresight: Gold, silver, coins, etc will weaken after January or February 2011
* Rumor: Modern Chinese coin charts coming out soon
* Why does this business site talk so much about investments?
* The chess game of rich vs. poor

Gold and Silver Panda Coin Buyer's Guide Book

This is THE panda book, written by the world's foremost expert on Chinese panda coins. Buy the book before the coin. Enough said.

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« Reply #8 on: 2011 Jun 04, 04:22:59 pm »

My choices

* 1998 1 oz silver large date pandas
* Other platinum pandas, because they're available cheaply at auction and they're MUCH rarer than previously thought.
* 2007 1/4 oz silver 25th anniversary proof pandas
* silver scallop plum blossom flower lunar coins, especially the dragons
* All other lunar coins
* Dragon themed coins
* 1992 1 oz silver proof panda varieties
* Gold-gilded expo pandas
* Other expo coins
* Unicorns, especially the NCS conserved ones, because they're not going to stop rising in value until people can't afford them anymore - that usually means $5000+
* Coins in a 70 grade
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« Reply #9 on: 2011 Jun 04, 04:23:14 pm »

NCS conserved



Sellers who list coins with the words "NCS conserved" somewhere in their Ebay listing will show up here, regardless of grade. This is to enhance the value of both high and low grade coins that have been conserved, and can be advertised with the phrase "This coin has been conserved by NCS", or something similar.

NCS conserved coins

I routinely pay hundreds or even thousands of dollars EXTRA for a coin that comes from a dealer that I know always conserves his coins. If I pay thousands of dollars for a rare silver coin, it would be a tragedy if it developed the dreaded White Spots of Death later. I have never had a problem with any of my conserved silver coins.

If we're going to get NCS and NGC to start labeling conserved coins, we have to help dealers to earn a little extra money for them. This is a chicken-and-egg problem, where nobody labels NCS conserved coins because nobody is looking for them, and nobody is looking for them because nobody labels them. Now, sellers can tell us (on the honor system) which coins have been conserved.
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