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« on: 2011 Apr 03, 02:38:54 pm »



Scroll WAY down to see the coin recommendations and skip the commentary!

Peter Anthony has announced that he will be authoring a new column about Chinese coins, in one of the largest numismatic publications:

"Chinese coins are going to gain a little more prominence in World Coin News from Krause Publications. Beginning in the May issue there will be a regular monthly column on collecting and valuing Pandas. Eventually the column may be expanded to cover other modern Chinese coins, as well."

The modern Chinese coin market is starting to gain popular appeal. This is good news for us all, and means we will see prices rising in the lead up to the first publication of the article in May, and continuing interest into the future as the modern Chinese coin market matures. This is an encouraging "buy" signal.

Ebay incentives will cause supply to increase soon

Normally, Ebay has been giving sellers free auction-style listings as long as the auction starting price was less than $1. Starting April 19th, the listings will be free for the sellers at any starting price. That will bring some expensive coins to the market that haven't been seen for a while, and it may have the effect of pushing prices higher. It could also make underpriced bargains harder to get, but that's already a continuing process in this market.

These auctions can have a Buy-It-Now option added to them for free too, so the sellers will still have plenty of Buy-It-Now items for those who want to grab coins fast, especially if the Buy-It-Now price hasn't kept up with price increases.

Spring & Summer supply slowdown (4S)

Given the crazy world events (America at war in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya...), precious metals have been very strong, and the coin market has been even stronger. It seems foolish to expect decreased prices when things slow down a bit during the warmer months of spring and summer. However, I'm sure supply will still be reduced somewhat, because even if prices won't quit rising, sellers can still stop selling for a while to take vacations.

You may have noticed that I took much longer to write this article. I was hoping that maybe by not writing a new article this week, I could kick off a slowdown, but no luck. It was an interesting experiment though. Instead of slowing, people are sending me messages asking when my next article will come out, and if I haven't written one yet because I'm too busy buying ("no comment", haha).

Still, I think it's wise for everyone to mentally prepare themselves for a routine seasonal slowdown, so you're not feeling anxious or panicky if prices actually find a way to go lower on some coins. This is not a time to hibernate and wait though, because while some coins are cooling off, inevitably some coins will be heating up (read about lunar dragons below). This is a good time to catch some bargains as both sellers and buyers sit on the sidelines. Remember, the sellers have to buy too, so if they're not selling, they're not buying either. The big price moves are always pushed by the sellers as they buy up coins to supply to their eager customers.

I suspect the Ebay promotions or incentives mentioned earlier are because Ebay expects a slowdown too - but for everything, not just coins, which is normal for the warmer season.

Lunars underpriced, the dragons are awakening

Last December, lunar coins hit some impressive record prices, with a few of the normally inexpensive silver ones selling at auction for around the $1000. Now, those same coins have cooled off and are occasionally selling way too cheaply. That means it's time to focus some investment money on lunars.

My first clue that the time is right for getting back into these was when I watched a 2000 2/3 oz silver scallop plum blossom flower lunar dragon UNGRADED sell at auction for $1245. Previously, the coin had been selling for around $500 - at least until the supply disappeared for a short time (that could be my fault, in case you're wonder what I've been buying, hint, hint). Then, buyers noticed that the steady supply of dragons stopped - they know this coin is very rare with a mintage of only 6800, and they're worried they may not see one for a while once they're gone, so they bid the next one that appeared to around double the last record price.

I think they're right to worry about the supply running out, because I suspect the current supply is coming from 2 sheets that were auctioned a few months ago. They sold VERY cheaply at auction, and some dealer out there is making some quick, easy money from them. That's only 20 coins...

There's a few other specimens that have appeared here and there from what I believe to be other sources, but it's those 2 sheets that have been drawing all the action. I strongly suspect that they are gone now, and the coins we're occasionally seeing on the market are just people's random coins that get sold from time to time. There's one in a 69 investment grade in this article, so it will be interesting to see what it sells for. Lately the norm has been that 69 coins sell for about double the price of the ungraded coins - that would put the one in this article at almost $2500!

Regardless of what it finally sells for though, I think lunars in general have been a victim of sector rotation, as people turned to pandas and other interesting coins while prices for the lunars were allowed to float as they will. With prices so high on some, and so low on others, I think it's only a matter of time before the momentum swings thoroughly in favor of lunars again.

Remember, next year is the year of the dragon. Dragon coins are already starting to heat up, and we still have 9 months to go! When 2012 arrives, dragons will be in one of the most exciting times they'll experience. That's good for you, but only if you start buying them up now while they're cheap, but just beginning to awaken.

The mythical modern Chinese coin market bubble

People have been saying the market is in a bubble since at least 2006, and probably earlier, back when you could buy a 1995 1 oz silver proof panda for around $50 to 100. Were they right? Hah, no way. Are the people talking about the market being in a bubble now right? No, sorry, they're still wrong, and I guess they'll remain wrong until they're right.

It all started with a discussion at the CCF about the Spring 2011 status of the Chinese coin market. It's interesting reading, if you care to have a look, but the basic gist of it is that some people are mistaking sector rotation for an overall decline in the market. Sector rotation is, for example, something like when pandas get really hot, and then do nothing for a while. If you're only invested in pandas, you may think the market is weak or in trouble. But, if you're properly diversified into other areas, you're probably still making money because some other area of the market is probably underpriced and getting active in perfect synchronization with the slowing in the last hot market area.

So, in other words, money isn't leaving the market when hot coins cool down - instead, it's just going to another part of the market.

Batman wrote a great several paragraphs on his opinion about all this in one of the comments for my lost article, and it's so well-written, I decided to publish it here:

I am responding to the thread on CCF, whereby the discussion centered around another slowdown in the coin market.  I think a discussion is appropriate for LBC. 

Here is Bruce Wayne's view:

Every couple of weeks someone raises the question of slowdown or a bubble after the market experiences a surge forward.  This is frustrating to me since we are investing in coins, not the stock market our housing.  The coins we are investing in have a finite supply (the mint cannot produce more...at least we believe they cannot...and the market is unlike housing where they can build and build and create oversupply), and the investments should be for the long term, not the next month or two or even six months (unless you are a dealer).  I am personally investing for approximately 10 years, therefore, any short term gyrations are meaningless to me.  Also, the business fundamentals of the Chinese coin market have not changed:

1) China Mint produced very unique coins with extremely low mintages/populations (dragons, horses, and yes pandas)
2) Most of these coins were exported to the US and Germany
3) There are over 1 billion people in China.  If just a small percentage become collectors, prices will increase significantly
4)  Also...at some point the people of China will want their coins back and they have to buy them from us.  This is a significant point because I believe the people of China will realize (if they have not done so already) that the coins are part of their national heritage (similar to how US collectors love the American Eagle (every year for the past couple of years the US mint has sold out of the silver proofs!!).   

Kona Jim may care about short term pricing since he is managing a portfolio valued at over $1M.  Therefore in my opinion he should be actively selling and buying to take profits when he can and reinvest those profits into different varieties. Most of us do not have that sizable investment in the market, and our strategy is a little different. Furthermore, to the extent there is any pullback in pricing, I intend to buy aggressively, and I think other collectors would do the same, therefore establishing a floor for pricing. 

Every time a coin reaches a new high in terms of pricing my first reaction is @#%$$ Batman.  Then I realize that maybe only 1,000 coins were either minted or exist in terms of population estimates.  From that the Europeans ruined 50% of that population thru poor handling, and only 10% (probably less) of the remaining population can achieve an investment grade.  And oh yea, there's a billion people in China. I then step back and say, that's a good buy!!! 

Finally, regarding the comment about prices being cheaper in Asia, my view is they should be.  A large percentage of the coins in the US market are graded compared to raw coins in Asia. US collectors are obviously willing to pay significant premiums for high grades, sometimes in excess of 100% of the price, vs. a raw coin.  Therefore the fact that pricing in Asia is cheaper...well it should be. 

You buy what you want, when you want, and pay what you think is fair, even if its above market, because frankly, you may never see the coin again. And if you do, who cares if it's cheaper (buy it again).  I have bought many coins which I initially thought were overpriced.  However, immediately after the purchase, I was extremely thrilled to have purchased such a rare coin.  If that was not enough, the coup de grace comes about when the coin arrives in the mail and you can hold it in your hand!!  I then say to myself, I would have paid double for this coin given its rarity and beauty!!!!

People have been talking about the end of this market since it started. It isn't even mature yet, let alone ending. We have many, many years to go still. I am always entertained by talk of bubbles and things like that. Fiat is on the way out, precious metals on the way in, and numismatics are entering a heyday they've never seen before.

China dealer prices lower than worldwide ebay prices, coins moving West again

Ebay is an international site. Many of the top bidders on Ebay are Chinese, in addition to the usual mix of people from other parts of the world. However, Chinese dealers are mostly old-school traditionalists who haven't embraced online selling yet. Many of the buyers are the same kinds of people - middle aged, with tons of money, and not much interest in buying stuff online when they can buy in person.

But, the younger generation is making huge amounts of money by arbitraging the differences between the traditional Chinese coin shops, and the raging worldwide Ebay marketplace. Right now, the difference in price between an Ebay coin and a Chinese coin store coin can be hundreds or thousands of dollars. This is having the effect of pushing coins back out of China, towards the Ebay-savvy West. The coins will eventually get sent back to China again, of course, but only after passing through the hands of an ebay buyer.

This is mostly true for the lower priced coins, since the high priced coins are still being bought mostly by the wealthy Chinese people. That seems to be changing too, though, as even the high priced coins seem to be getting even higher prices by being sold on ebay, instead of in a private transaction.

For many of the rarest coins, if there's anything available at all throughout the entire world, there may be only one specimen on the market. If a seller sells directly to a single buyer, the buyer is probably the one getting the the best deal. If the coin is instead offered for sale on ebay, there may be many equally wealthy buyers competing for the opportunity to own a rare coin. That could push prices to unexpected heights that would have been laughed at if such a huge price had been suggested in a private transaction.

High grade coins concentrating in the West

The point Batman made above about higher grades being concentrated in the West is absolutely true. The higher prices in the West for some coins are no accident. While Chinese collectors are slowly trying to learn what Western collectors have been doing for 40 years now, all the low-grade coins are going back to China, while the high grades are being sucked out and sold to more sophisticated Western buyers.

This is a little secret I have been keeping to myself for quite a while now. Many of the prices people are using to guide their purchasing are prices for ungraded coins. Many of those ungraded coins are rejects that the savvy West has deemed unsuitable for grading. This is why it's so rare for me to tell someone that an investment grade coin is overpriced. If the raw, ungraded, and probably substandard coin is worth $2000, then a 69 coin ought to be worth substantially more.

This is the secret of making money in this market. Don't be afraid to overpay for top grade coins. They are disappearing from the market, and once that happens, prices will rise. Once Chinese collectors figure out what's going on, they're going to feel like idiots for putting their money into coins without any regard for their quality. I said they would "feel like idiots" not BE idiots - they'll figure this out soon enough, and when they do, the lid is going to get blown off the prices of the investment grade 69 and 70 coins.

Already, somebody in China has been beating me to many of the best 70 coins that I wanted for myself, and thought no one else would be brave enough to buy - so I waited too long! There's a few collectors that know better than to just buy whatever raw coin comes along (I'm sure some of them read my articles), and they've been buying up rare 70 coins as fast or faster than I have.

Pandas are hot

Congratulations to everyone who has been buying up pandas. I was criticized for continuing to recommend them so persistently, but now you can see for yourself that I was right to do that. The pandas have been largely ignored in favor of more culturally significant Chinese coins, but with the price of those going out of reach of most people, and then flattening for a few months, people turned to pandas. In fact, the entire world turned to pandas, both in the West and in China. But, LBC readers were buying them up months before everyone else.

There are few coins that are so distinctly Chinese as the Panda. It's China's answer to the world-famous American Eagle, and it's much more collectible due to it's impressive rarity compared to the American Eagles. Originally intended for export, Chinese collectors have mostly ignored them, but as the flagship product of the Chinese mint, they couldn't ignore them forever. In other words, they're not seen as foreign coins in China anymore - they're being embraced as fully-Chinese.

The funny thing about this is that Chinese people are second to the market for pandas. Usually, it's the Chinese market that leads the world's preferences in types of Chinese coins. But, this time, the rest of the world became so excited about the cheap and rare pandas, that they drove the prices upwards while the Chinese sellers were happy to export them.

Now, China's buyers are noticing the price increases, and they naturally want to be part of the action too - and of course, they're annoyed that it's pesky foreigners once again threatening their cultural and national pride - They seem to be screaming all at once "panda coins are CHINESE!", and now they plan to do something about it, which will make the current lucky owners a little wealthier than before.

The power of popularity

Michaelangelo began his art career by forging famous artworks. Steve Jobs of Apple (ipod, ipad, iphone, etc) began his technology career by forging technology to break into telephone systems. Zhang Da Qian (also spelled Chang Dai-Chien, Chang Ta-Chien, etc) made his career forging famous artworks, much like like Michaelangelo. This guy could forge anything, and he did it so well, that every collection in every museum that houses Chinese artwork is suspected to contain one of his forgeries.

So, he's a talented criminal, but that's only where the story begins. He fled China in 1948, before the current People's Republic of China (PRC) was formed, and he never returned.
He lived in California and Taiwan, and probably traveled other places, but never to the PRC. In fact, he joined the Kuomintang that was dedicated to fighting against Mao Zedong,
and the eventual formation of the PRC. So, he's a criminal AND a traitor that never lived in the PRC, and who would probably have been executed if he did.

But, this guy was an artist so talented and so famous (popular!), it didn't matter that he was a criminal AND a rebel traitor. The PRC is now trying to claim him as their own, even though he never lived in China under the rule of the PRC, and he would probably best be described as Taiwanese, since that was the location of his political affiliation and his final choice of a home. You've got to be somebody special to achieve that - that's the power of popularity.

Now, Zhang Da Qian is honored by the depiction of both himself and his artwork on the rectangular 1999 1 oz silver flower and 1999 1 oz silver bird issues of China's Modern Painting Master series of coins. The mintage for them is 10,000 and they're the kind of coins that get popular really fast once people realize how interesting they are.

The power of rarity - When unpopular becomes popular

Who cares about some unknown guy with a silly name like Button Gwinnett? People with a whole lot of money, that's who. Is he popular? Well, no, but just his signature alone is worth more than most people's entire lives. In fact, it's probably worth more than the signatures of George Washington, William Shakespeare, Amadeus Mozart, King Henry VIII, Amelia Earhart, Angelina Jolie, Neil Armstrong (the moon landing is no big achievement right?), and countless others.

Why?

Because of a strange phenomenon that happens when unpopular becomes popular. Button Gwinnett is more or less nobody. He failed in business, was removed from his military command, he was defeated by his political rival, and he also lost the duel that finally killed him. To further ensure Gwinnett's erasure from history, nobody bothered to keep track of where he was buried. If he's so obscure, why is his signature one of the most valuable in the world? Because it's the rarest!

Only about 52 specimens of his signature are known to have survived, and autograph collectors trying to assemble a set of every signer of the Declaration of independence must obtain one of his signatures to complete the set, so they're forced to pay incredible prices for them.

In the case of Button Gwinnett's signature, what it lacked in popularity, it gained in rarity. Now everybody knows who Button Gwinnett is, and that's really all there is to it.

There were 56 total signers of the Declaration of Independence, and only 3 of them are names that most people with a basic knowledge of American history would recognize (Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, and John Hancock). Button Gwinnett's signature just happens to be the rarest out of many other unpopular signatures, and that's all it takes to make it by far the most valuable American signature.

Becoming rare is a good way to become valuable, and becoming valuable is a good way to become popular. That's how Button Gwinnett went from being nobody, to being the most famous signer of the Declaration of Independence - at least amongst people with money behind them, like historians and collectors of American historical artifacts.

So, what does this story about American autograph collecting mean for us, as collectors of modern Chinese coins? Well, it's simple: Buy rare coins, especially if they're unpopular. You know the kid everybody picked on at school? Yeah, the one that own half the town now...Very often it pays off to bet on the unpopular things.

Early in this market, popularity was everything because we had a long way to go, and a lot of coins to choose from. Investors did not want to put their money into coins that would do nothing for many years, so, you had to choose investments that had enough popularity to make them perform within a reasonable timeframe. Now, that's starting to not be true anymore - popularity is starting to become less important than rarity. We're not there yet, but I'm writing this for you now so you can position yourself for the next phase of this market, when rarity dominates.

Don't forget, there's several basic types of numismatic rarity:

* Mintage rarity - when a coin is produced in small numbers.
* Surviving population rarity - when a coin has had many of its specimens destroyed or damaged.
* Grade rarity - when high grade coins become difficult or impossible to obtain.
* Popularity rarity - When demand exceeds supply with buyers taking supply off the market.

Varieties are big money

NGC doesn't want to deal with Chinese coin varieties, but they fuss over every detail of American coins. For example, an ordinary 1964 american coin would be worth only a few dollars at most, but some of them have a slightly different matte finish. Those minor varieties are fussed over at length, and are worth more than $10,000 each.

Now is the time to buy rare Chinese coin varieties, while they're being ignored by practically everyone but LBC readers. Many of the varieties that have been discovered are more significant than their extremely valuable American counterparts. Every chance you get to own a new variety of a Chinese coin for the same price as regular coins is like winning the lottery. Someday they won't be ignored anymore, and you may discover that you own some of the most important and sought-after coins in the world.

This is my first official mention of the Coin Compendium: I'm working on a new site that will allow coin owners to document coins themselves. There's other sites out there like that, but I think I can do it better, so I will Smiley Once the Compendium is up and running, there won't be any need to beg NGC or PCGS to recognize coin newly discovered coin varieties. This will be good for everyone, including NGC and PCGS - it'll be easier for them to recognize coins if they're already thoroughly documented.

Coins vs. medals, circulating vs. non-circulating, legal tender vs. non-legal tender, fiat vs. precious metals

Circulating coinage made of precious metals is a remnant of the past, for now, but those times are coming back. All of the modern Chinese coins I've listed in my articles - pandas, lunars, etc - were produced for collectors, not for use as circulating money. Right now, rare circulating coins are more valuable to collectors relative to their mintage simply because they were "real" circulating coins, or special versions of circulating coins like proofs and patterns.

One of the reasons that I haven't recommended any collectible circulating coins in my articles is because I think that will change.

All of the circulating coins in existence in the world today are unbacked fiat currencies that are normally worth more than their metal value. When the world's unbacked fiat currencies collapse - "when", not "if" - then the collectible circulating coins will not have an advantage anymore over the non-circulating precious metals (gold, silver, etc) coins produced for collectors.

In fact, I think the entire situation will reverse itself, to give the precious metal coins the advantage over obsolete, devalued fiat coins. Since the non-circulating coins were produced in far smaller numbers than the circulating coins, I think they'll become much more valuable, especially if the collector values of the circulating coins drop.

When the fiat currencies become worthless, they'll be like all the other "broken bank notes" of paper money collecting, that have lost their legal value and their collector value. It won't matter if it's the only surviving specimen - it won't be nearly as interesting to collectors as other currencies that still have value.

This has happened before in ancient coins, so I'm not wildly speculating about this happening. There are many ancient coins that weren't made of precious metals, and they have no legal value anymore because they were made by governments that no longer exist. There are over 100,000 known types, and MANY of those have only one surviving specimen. With only 1 coin, you would think it would be particularly valuable, but it's not because it's part of a vast pile of many coins that are just as rare, and just as worthless, because they're not made of precious metals like gold or silver.

When the unbacked fiat currencies of the world become worthless, today's valuable circulating coins will be in trouble. They may not lose their value overnight, but they will definitely begin their decline, and eventually they'll be tossed into the worthless pile of other coins and currencies that have lost their value. It could take decades or centuries for that to happen though, so no need to panic if you own a rare and historically significant version of a circulating fiat coin. Just know that I haven't put any of MY money into them...

But, what you do need to think about is the fact that the future for collectible circulating coins is not going to be improving, like the future of the rare "bullion" pandas, lunars, medals, etc that are made of gold, silver, platinum, and palladium.

The coins made of precious metals will become even more valuable when the fiat currencies collapse, not less valuable like the rare circulating coins might. That's the trend, and even if it takes 100 years, wouldn't you rather be on the winning side of the trend? That's why I haven't bought ANY rare circulating coins, even though I would like to, from a collector point of view. From an investor point of view, I know that their future does not look as good as the future for the precious metal coins, so I avoid them.

So, what about medals that have no face value? As long as they're gold, silver, platinum, palladium, and even copper or bronze, they will do well. When the fiat currencies collapse, there will be nothing anymore that makes a medal without face value different from a panda that has face value. This means that price increases will probably be greatest amongst the medals, which is why I have shifted around half of my investments into the rare medals.

We've seen what medals can do. The Munich panda medals are among the most valuable, with some of them having reached the $80,000 level! That's serious money! The 1989 3.3 oz god of war & wealth is fast approaching the $2000 level, up from a pitiful $160 only a year ago. People with money know that the medals are undervalued, and that their status should be equal to the regular legal tender coins like pandas.

While they're in the process of equalizing, you're going to make a lot of money by investing in them.

1995 1 oz silver proof panda wide and thin rim varieties discovered

I've discovered 2 new varieties of the 1995 1 oz silver proof panda that I call the thin rim and wide rim types. This coin is already one of the rarest of the low mintage silver proof pandas, but with its mintage being divided amongst 2 significant varieties now, its rarity and price will likely increase proportionally. The more common variety seems to be the thin rim type.

These varieties are more significant than just rim variations. I call them wide rim and thin because that's the quickest and easiest way to identify them. However, there are many other differences between the specimens I'm comparing here. Firstly, the reason the wide rim type has a wider rim is partly because the die was pressed deeper into the coin. The die seems to have been designed with a slightly higher relief than the normal thin rim variety, which is why it required higher striking pressure to create. The deep strike of the die was unnecessary, even for the slightly higher relief of the coin, and would have needlessly worn out the die quicker than normal.

The specimen I have discovered is an early die state, with thick, fresh frosting. The die has many frosting problems where areas were frosted on the panda that were supposed to have a mirror finish. The panda's right ear, left shoulder, groin, and left leg all have a little too much frosting extending out into the wrong places. It appears to me that the die received at least 2 frosting treatments, possibly to try to correct some of the frosting errors. The left shoulder is the most apparent location of misapplied frosting, where the panda has sort of an extra "cape" or "collar" of frosting, and most interestingly, it is also an area that seems to have received only one of the 2 frosting treatment.

Being an early die state, with erroneous frosting, and problems with the higher relief and excessive striking pressure lead me to believe this die may have been the first die used in trial strikes to set up the minting presses for the full production run. After problems were noted, it's possible the die was removed from service and replaced with a corrected and improved die or set of dies to carry out the normal minting of the coins. Normally such coins are considered trial strikes or patterns, but more specimens need to be discovered to give more credibility to that hypothesis.

Just looking through ebay photos, it seems that there may be 2 types of wide rim coins: the kind with extra frosting in the wrong places, and another kind that doesn't have frosting errors. But, it's hard to tell from the photos to be sure. If that's true, then that would mean there's 3 varieties: thin rim, wide rim frosted collar, and wide rim mirror collar. Here's some photos below of the two coins I've examined. Please share your own coin photos if you find something interesting that can help sort these varieties.

1995 1 oz silver proof panda thin rim panda side


1995 1 oz silver proof panda wide rim panda side


1995 1 oz silver proof panda thin rim panda fur frosting


1995 1 oz silver proof panda wide rim panda fur frosting


1995 1 oz silver proof panda thin rim skinny "1 oz Ag .999"


1995 1 oz silver proof panda wide rim fat "1 oz Ag .999"


1995 1 oz silver proof panda thin rim temple side


1995 1 oz silver proof panda wide rim temple side


1995 1 oz silver proof panda thin rim temple top ball ornament thing


1995 1 oz silver proof panda wide rim temple top ball ornament thing


Sell your coins on LBC

The Chinese coin marketplace on LBC is a topic started by groovemachine for selling coins amongst LBC members. It's been around for a while now, and seems to be getting interesting, so I figured I would mention it here. Ebay is by far the best place to buy and sell coins, but sometimes it's interesting to see what's been posted over there.

Read the article replies

Always come back to check the replies on these articles. That's where most of the good stuff is! Register on the forums and click "notify" to receive email notifications of new replies that may make some easy money for the first person to read it. Many of the best coins only last for a few minutes before somebody grabs them. If you get notified of replies, you'll be able to see anything new that I list right when I list it. You'll also stay informed of the hot topics, and see what other people are talking about buying.

NCS and NGC refuse to help buyers find conserved coins for long term investment

I've talked a lot about NCS conservation of silver coins, especially the ones with the highest grades that were graded in the past. Coins that were not conserved before grading could degrade over time as invisible residues corrode their surfaces. That could make your investments virtually worthless!

There are nuances to which coins are worrisome, and which aren't, so I've recommended coins that look good despite not knowing whether they've been conserved or not. For example, an old silver coin that still looks good after many years is probably OK, and a newer panda that came from modern PVC-free packaging is probably OK too. But, the only way to know for sure is to only buy coins that have been conserved before grading.

Sadly, NCS and NGC continue to refuse to indicate on the holders if a coin has been conserved, even if requested. I have begged them to let me buy coins that I know will not become hunks of scrap metal over time, and they won't listen to me - just one person - but they will listen to the market as a whole. That means you. Everyone needs to contact NCS and tell them you want to buy coins that you know have been conserved. Tell them that you want to buy coins that NGC marks as conserved on their holders. Here's the person to contact:

Craig Fiumara
Numismatic Conservation Services
Operations Manager
Phone 866-627-2646  Ext. 145
Fax 941-360-2559
CraigF@NCScoin.com

Once we persuade them that we want to know that our coins are safe, they will obey our demands and start marking the conserved coins. Only then can we be reasonably certain (but never 100%) that our investments will not become worthless over time.

Recommended reading

Here's some recent articles of mine that can provide some guidance for investing in the current and coming market conditions:

* LBC makes me rich
* Wealth preservation: USA vs. China (By Zerosum)
* Coins are the hot new investment
* How high will the Chinese coin market go?
* 5 criteria to determine if a coin is a good investment
* 13 coin facts to learn for beginning investors of modern Chinese coins
* My First Chinese Panda Coin Purchase (By Tamo42)
* Modern Chinese coin investment strategy
* Don't be the "whale" that pays too much for an investment coin
* Modern Chinese coin commentary and market predictions - 2010-Dec-15
* What makes people buy up all the Chinese panda coins?
* Investing in rare modern Chinese coins, some questions answered
* Cash is king for 2011 - Get ready for the coming bargain hunt
* Foresight: Gold, silver, coins, etc will weaken after January or February 2011
* Rumor: Modern Chinese coin charts coming out soon
* Why does this business site talk so much about investments?
* The chess game of rich vs. poor

Gold and Silver Panda Coin Buyer's Guide Book

This is THE panda book, written by the world's foremost expert on Chinese panda coins. Buy the book before the coin. Enough said.

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My choices
* 2007 1/4 oz silver 25th anniversary proof panda in 70 grade.
* 2007 1/4 oz silver 25th anniversary proof panda 25 coin set in 69 grade.
* 2000 2/3 oz silver scallop plum blossom flower lunar dragon NGC PF 69 UC.
* Other lunar or dragon themed coins.
* 1995 1 oz silver proof pandas.
* Gold-gilded Beijing expo pandas because of their enormous popularity potential, low mintage, and relatively low - but rising fast - price.
* Unicorns, especially the NCS conserved ones, because they're not going to stop rising in value until people can't afford them anymore - that usually means $5000+
* Coins in a 70 grade. They're getting more action than usual lately, due to increasing popularity and decreasing supply.
* 1986 24 g silver empress of china clipper ship coins.



NCS conserved



Sellers who list coins with the words "NCS conserved" somewhere in their Ebay listing will show up here, regardless of grade. This is to enhance the value of both high and low grade coins that have been conserved, and can be advertised with the phrase "This coin has been conserved by NCS", or something similar.

NCS conserved coins

I routinely pay hundreds or even thousands of dollars EXTRA for a coin that comes from a dealer that I know always conserves his coins. If I pay thousands of dollars for a rare silver coin, it would be a tragedy if it developed the dreaded White Spots of Death later. I have never had a problem with any of my conserved silver coins.

If we're going to get NCS and NGC to start labeling conserved coins, we have to help dealers to earn a little extra money for them. This is a chicken-and-egg problem, where nobody labels NCS conserved coins because nobody is looking for them, and nobody is looking for them because nobody labels them. Now, sellers can tell us (on the honor system) which coins have been conserved.



70 grade coins



NEW 1986 24 g silver empress of china clipper ship NGC MS 70

$399 Buy-It-Now.

2002 1 oz silver panda NGC MS 70

$588 Buy-It-Now.

2002 1 oz silver panda NGC MS 70

$588 Buy-It-Now. 79 out of 476, or about 1 in 6, have earned a 70 grade.

2003 1 oz silver frosted panda NGC MS 70

$588 Buy-It-Now.

2003 1 oz silver frosted panda NGC MS 70

$588 Buy-It-Now. Last one sold at auction for $410, which is a very strong price. 209 out of 1099, or about 1 in 5, have earned a 70 grade.

2005 1 kilo silver panda NGC PF 70 UC

$17,995 Buy-It-Now, or best offer. The 2004 that's been in the list lately has an auction starting price of $7000, so I don't think the price this seller is asking is reasonable. But, the door is open to make an offer, so I decided to list this coin because of that. Otherwise, the price is high enough that I would not have listed it. 70 coins require the right buyer. A patient seller can hold out for any price they want when they own the only known specimen in a 70 grade. If you have to have the best of the best, maybe consider putting out an offer around $7000.

NEW 2007 1/4 oz silver 25th anniversary 1991 proof panda NGC PF 70 UC

$0.99 auction starting price. Mintage 30,000. About 1 in 4 earn a 70 grade. This is one of my favorite investments. Lagging far behind the other proof pandas, and even the other anniversary pandas, this coin is likely to sell for a very cheap price. For example, the 2009 1 oz silver 30th anniversary panda has a mintage of 300,000 and is not even a proof - but it sells for around $300 in a 70 grade! The record price for the 2007 1/4 oz silver 25th anniversary proof pandas is only around $200, and they're at least 10 times rarer. I think it should be selling for around $300 to $400 right now. This is by far one of the best investments you can make, and it's cheap! However, they don't appear for sale very often in investment grade, and almost never in a 70 grade, so get this one if you can.

NEW 2009 1 oz silver 30th anniversary panda NGC MS 70

$399.99 Buy-It-Now, or best offer.

NEW 2009 1 oz silver 30th anniversary panda NGC MS 70

$0.99 auction starting price. Mintage 300,000.

NEW 2010 1 oz silver Shanghai mint 90th anniversary panda NGC MS 70

$3999.99 Buy-It-Now, or best offer. Mintage 20,000. RARE! Unusually low mintage for such a recent date, the coins are among the most difficult to find. Last I checked, these do not show up in NGC's database yet, which means they were very recently graded, even though they're from last year! It took THAT LONG for someone in the West to obtain them. This one is terribly overpriced at nearly $4000, so I'd make an offer well-under $2000 instead.



Proof pandas



All the early proof pandas are what I like to call $10,000 coins, because I firmly believe within the next decade, you will have to pay $10k+ to obtain one. Coins here meet at least 4 of the 5 criteria to determine if a coin is a good investment. The only one they may not meet is the one about conservation, which is less important as long as the coin looks good despite its age, and not very important at all for gold, platinum, and palladium. If any of the silver coins you buy have white spots when you receive them, you should probably return it for a refund.

NEW 1984 27 g silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC

$99 auction starting price.

NEW 1985 27 g silver proof panda PCGS PR 69 DCAM

$1000 auction starting price.

NEW 1985 27 g silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC

$1000 auction starting price.

NEW 1986 1 oz gold proof panda PCGS PR 69 DCAM

$2398 Buy-It-Now. Mintage 10,000.

NEW 1987 1/4 oz gold proof panda NGC PF 69 UC

$475 auction starting price. Mintage 10,000.

NEW 1987 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC

$1065 Buy-It-Now, $965 auction starting price.

1987 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC

$1099 Buy-It-Now.

1987 5 oz silver panda NGC PF 69 UC

$1175 Buy-It-Now, or best offer.

1987 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC

$1200 Buy-It-Now. Mintage 31,000. This is a very high price. The other coin recently on this list was priced at $650 Buy-It-Now, or best offer. I'll watch to see what sells and what doesn't, but I suspect these are on the move upwards.

NEW 1989 1/20 oz gold proof panda NGC PF 69 UC

$525 Buy-It-Now.

NEW 1989 1/10 oz gold proof panda NGC PF 69 UC

$200 auction starting price. Mintage 8000.

NEW 1989 1/2 oz gold proof panda NGC PF 69 UC

$800 auction starting price. Mintage 8000.

NEW 1989 1/2 oz gold proof panda PCGS PR 69 DCAM

$1398 Buy-It-Now. Mintage 8000.

NEW 1990 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC

$450 Buy-It-Now, $399.99 auction starting price.

1991 1/20 oz gold proof panda PCGS PR 69 DCAM

$499.95 Buy-It-Now. Mintage 3500.

1991 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC

$439 Buy-It-Now.

NEW 1992 1 oz silver proof panda PCGS PR 69 DCAM

$988 Buy-It-Now.

The official mintage for the 1992 coins is 20,000 but is probably lower, as is often the case for early coins. Prices have been steadily increasing, and this one has sold for $278 and $399 for a 69 specimen, and up to a whopping $738 for a damaged, ungraded coin. The $738 price was ridiculous, but it's a clue as to how crazy people get sometimes. The damage on the $738 coin is a torch sloppily engraved into it by a private coin dealer in Germany when the coin was first released. 3000 of them were damaged by the torch engraving, and word hasn't quite made it to all the collectors in China that the torch isn't supposed to be there. The Chinese dealers seem to be making good money by not telling them too!

So, we know that 3000 of these coins were damaged right when they were released, and I suspect that the Chinese dealers may be getting greedy, and they could be carving their own little torches into the surviving coins to try to score a $700+ price tag on a damaged coin. That means that, in addition to probably having a lower mintage than the official figures suggest, we already know that at least 3000 coins have been damaged. That makes this coin a good investment, because it doesn't cost more than coins that weren't damaged on a large scale.

I would grab this coin before word spreads that the little torch coins are actually damaged coins, and pristine coins are much rarer than people have thought. Only 109 have been graded a 69, which is about half as many as expected - but the coin does not cost twice as much! This coin is underpriced, and a good investment. Buy them when you find them.

Update:

There were some discussions that led to questions about why the 1992 proof panda is cheaper than coins that should have higher mintages. Aside from the obvious possibility that the other coins actually have much lower mintages, there's other plausible explanations as well (no one knows for certain yet, but I think these are good guesses):

One explanation for the unnaturally cheaper price on the 1992 1 oz silver proof pandas could be that a lot of people paid big bucks for the torch version. Once they had that, they erroneously felt they had the key coin for that date, and so did not buy the normal, unaltered 1992 coin.

On top of that, once they read our research on this forum, and learned that the torch coin is actually a damaged coin, they may have developed a reflexive dislike for the 1992 coins after having lost a lot of money on the altered torch coins.

It still remains possible that the 1992 1 oz silver proof panda is actually rarer than coins that are currently selling for more, and that would make it a good investment that justifies its inclusion in my list.

Either way, until the truth is known for sure, it would be a good idea to make sure to have at least one of them in your collection/portfolio (in investment-grade, without the torch!).

NEW 1993 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC

$715 Buy-It-Now, $649.99 auction starting price.

1993 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC

$588 Buy-It-Now.

1993 1 oz silver proof panda PCGS PR 69 DCAM

$988 Buy-It-Now.

NEW 1994 1/4 oz gold proof panda PCGS PR 69 DCAM

$1898 Buy-It-Now. Mintage 2500.

NEW 1994 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC

$1499.99 Buy-It-Now, $1299.99 auction starting price.

1994 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC

$1699 Buy-It-Now. Key coin, very popular. Remember when people thought these were too expensive at $450, and everyone thought my $10,000 prediction was way too high?

NEW 1995 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC

$1325 Buy-It-Now, $1199 auction starting price.

NEW 1995 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC

$1388 Buy-It-Now.

NEW 1996 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC

$797 Buy-It-Now, or best offer. Here's 3 coins for sale at below market price. Get them before somebody else does, and don't waste time with best offers, just grab them.

NEW 1996 1 oz silver proof panda PCGS PR 69 DCAM

$1025 Buy-It-Now.

NEW 1996 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC

$947 Buy-It-Now, or best offer.

NEW 1996 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC

$895 Buy-It-Now.

NEW 1996 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC

$1250 Buy-It-Now.

1996 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC

$1099 Buy-It-Now.

1996 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC

$1150 Buy-It-Now.

2005 1 kilo silver panda NGC PF 69 UC

$4795 Buy-It-Now. Mintage 4000. Heavy coins get damaged easily, and 69 coins are difficult to find.

NEW 2007 1/4 oz silver 25th anniversary proof panda 25 coin set NGC PF 69 UC

$1299 auction starting price. Mintage 30,000. The auction starting price is about $52 per coin. I can't believe nobody has bid on this yet. These coins should be selling for around $200 each in a 69 grade. Being so expensive, I think it's likely someone with the cash to buy the whole set will be able to make some good money by selling these one at a time for as much as 4 times what they cost in the whole set.



Platinum and palladium pandas



NEW 1990 1/10 oz platinum panda PCGS PR 69 DCAM

$0.99 auction starting price.

1990 1/10 oz platinum panda NGC PF 69 UC

$1000 Buy-It-Now. Mintage 4500. Listing says the actual mintage is 3651, but I can't confirm that. Remember when these were in my list around $700?

1990 1 oz platinum panda NGC PF 69 UC

$10,750 Buy-It-Now. Mintage 1300. The last one sold at auction for close to the asking price for this coin. It's been getting talked about quite a lot. Platinum is getting popular, it seems.

1993 1/10 oz platinum panda NGC PF 69 UC

$1999 Buy-It-Now. Mintage 2500.

2004 1/2 oz palladium panda NGC PF 69 UC

$995 Buy-It-Now. Mintage 8000. These have sold for much more in the past.

2004 1/2 oz palladium panda NGC PF 69 UC

$1195 Buy-It-Now. Mintage 8000.

]2005 1/2 oz palladium panda NGC PF 69 UC

$1395 Buy-It-Now. Mintage 8000.



BU pandas



1998 1 oz silver large date panda NGC MS 69

$499 Buy-It-Now. Key coin, very popular.

NEW 2000 1 oz silver mirror panda NGC MS 69

$1995 auction starting price. Seller is honest, and has nice coins, but can be difficult to deal with.

NEW 2000 1 oz gold mirror panda NGC MS 69

$4000 auction starting price.

2001 D 1 oz silver panda NGC MS 69

$438 Buy-It-Now.

NEW 2002 1 oz silver panda NGC MS 69

$199.99 Buy-It-Now.

NEW 2002 1 oz silver panda NGC MS 69

$0.99 auction starting price.

Investment-grade 1/2 oz silver pandas

These are moving upwards, so I decided to include them again. The items in the list are from an automatically generated search, so they're not necessarily recommendations. You'll have to find and purchase coins yourself, but I'll be happy to answer questions about them. There's too many to list individually - the search thingy above that shows the items doesn't show everything, so click the link above it to see all items that the search can find for you.



Large date and small date pandas



Investment grade large date and small date pandas

Pricing information is very immature for panda varieties so here's a search, not necessarily a list of recommendations, that shows you what I might have put in this article if there were more information available. Pricing is erratic, with no one quite sure what a fair price should be, not even the sellers themselves. That usually means everything is selling too cheap. Good luck, and get them while you can.



Lunar coins



NEW 1990 1 oz gold lunar horse NGC PF 69 UC

$4300 auction starting price. Mintage 6000.

NEW 1994 2/3 oz silver scallop plum blossom flower lunar dog NGC PF 69 UC

$288.88 auction starting price. Mintage 6800.

NEW 1995 1 oz silver lunar pig NGC PF 69 UC

$299 auction starting price. Mintage 8000.

NEW 1999 2/3 oz silver scallop plum blossom flower lunar rabbit NCS NGC PF 69 UC

$750 Buy-It-Now. Mintage 6800. NCS conserved!

1999 1/2 oz gold scallop plum blossom flower lunar rabbit PCGS PR 69 DCAM

$4300 Buy-It-now. Mintage 2300.

NEW 2000 2/3 oz silver scallop plum blossom flower lunar dragon NGC PF 69 UC

$888.88 auction starting price. Mintage 6800. This is the key coin of the silver plum lunar series. It has sold UNGRADED recently for $1245. In a 69 investment grade, this coin normally sells for a little more than double its ungraded price. If the $1245 ungrade price holds (there are currently specimens being offered for a little under $1000), then an estimate for the value of this investment grade specimen is around $2000 to $2500. This coin has been steadily booming in price for several years, with every available specimen being slurped from the market by hungry buyers. This is the kind of coin that is always popular, and always a good investment.



Other investment grade coins



NEW 1984 22 g silver Chinese historical figures terracotta soldier kneeling NGC PF 69 UC

$499 Buy-It-Now. Mintage 19,301.

NEW 1984 22 g silver Chinese historical figures terracotta soldier right NGC PF 69 UC

$499 Buy-It-Now. Mintage 19,301.

NEW 1984 22 g silver Chinese historical figures terracotta soldier left NGC PF 69 UC

$499 Buy-It-Now. Mintage 19,301.

1986 24 g silver empress of china clipper ship NGC MS 69

$158 Buy-It-Now.

NEW 1986 24 g silver empress of china clipper ship NGC MS 69

$0.99 auction starting price.

Question:

"What's the significance of 1986 CHINA S5Y SHIP EMPRESS OF CHINA (22.2g, not 24g as advertised) at $100 to 150? Its mintage is 75,000 so it's not that rare. Is there a cultural significance to it or what?"

Answer:

A few things are confusing about this coin: The weight, the mintage, the quality of the mintage, and the surviving population.

The COA for the coin says it's 26.6 grams, for example, while other sources claim a variety of other weights. I haven't actually weighed any of them yet though.  The information you have about the mintage and weight comes from the Krause catalog, which is known to have numerous errors that the authors are too lazy to fix, for decades at a time, from edition to edition, including simple spelling errors that spellcheck could fix instantly.

Mintage figures I've seen range from around 50,000 to 90,000. Regardless of what the actual mintage is, it's still arguably quite low. I have long suspected that these are rarer than people think they are, especially in high grades.

However, those are all just details that all take a backseat to popularity. The coin is not popular yet, but I think it has merely been overlooked because it wasn't intended for the Chinese market - the ship on the coin is American. The ship theme of the coin is what will make it popular, once it gets noticed.

There are a lot of oddball coins that don't fit in any specific category very well, because they weren't part of any sort of series. Having a recognizable theme makes it possible for an oddball coin to fit into a set, and become popular for the set. For example, China's maritime set was minted for only one year, with a very low mintage. It has become popular due to its low price relative to its rarity, and that popularity has spread to other coins with a ship theme. Some collectors consider dragon boats, and other ship coins to be part of their maritime set.

The quantity of coins that are almost always available for the 1986 coin leads me to believe that the mintage probably isn't terribly low. I think the rarity lies in grade rarity, since the coins are so frequently in poor condition, due to the lack of respect they received for seeming to not be rare.

If we go with the highest mintage estimate I can think of off the top of my head, at 90,000, then I would consider it to be a low mintage coin. I am speculating on this coin, since so little is known for certain about it, with much conflicting information.

I would not be an aggressive buyer of these coins, due to the uncertainties, but I would take bargains from time to time when they come available. The asking price for the coin I listed is $168, but I would put in an offer of $100, and see if the seller will take that. If not, I might wait a while to see if anything else turns up, and then possibly try another offer.

Either way, I think this coin is a $200+ coin in the near future, due it's under 100,000 mintage. It is included in my list specifically for people who cannot afford rarer coins, but still want something better than a $70 panda with a mintage of 300,000 to 600,000.

NEW 1987 1988 1989 1/4 oz gold Chinese folk gods 5 coin set NGC PF 69 UC

$3499 auction starting price. Mintage 5000. This set is amazing, though it is missing some of the gods (there's a lot of them). All the market activity swirling around the 1989 3.3 oz silver god of war & wealth has spread to the other silver gods coins, and probably to these gold coins too. I still think the silver god of war coin is a better buy though, but these appear so rarely, I have to list it. It is definitely a good investment.

1988 1 oz gold san francisco expo dragon NGC PF 69 UC

$3999 Buy-It-Now, or best offer. Mintage 1500. This is a gorgeous medal with a low mintage and one of the most beautiful dragon designs made. I think the price is a bit high on this coin/medal but it deserves a mention here, since they could take off at any time. The most important thing about this coin that earns it a spot on my list is that it's a 69. Only half of them graded so far have been able to get a 69 (14 out of 28 total). They were frequently mishandled, and good quality, hand-selected specimens rarely earn an investment-quality grade. None have earned a 70. Oh, and it has the Chinese lucky number 8 twice in the date, which increases its desirability.

1989 1 oz silver New York Expo panda horse NGC PF 69 UC

$988.88 Buy-It-Now. Mintage 4000. Affectionately known as the "Kung-Fu Panda", due to the appearance of the panda doing a high-flying kick with bamboo weapons. Hiiii-YA! Smiley

NEW 1990 2 oz dragon & phoenix NGC PF 69 UC

$1995 auction starting price. Seller is honest, and has nice coins, but can be difficult to deal with.

NEW 1991 1/2 oz gold Munich expo panda PCGS PR 69 DCAM

$3198 Buy-It-Now. Mintage 1500.

NEW 1991 2 oz silver 10th anniversary panda NGC PF 69 UC

$1200 Buy-It-Now, or best offer. Mintage 10,000.

1991 2 oz silver 10th anniversary panda NGC PF 69 UC

$1688 Buy-It-Now. Mintage 10,000. Very popular. It's actually a piedfort, not a "piefort", which is a misspelling that NGC has taken from the Krause catalogs. The Krause catalogs never get fixed, and it uses both the correct spelling, and the incorrect spelling, which confuses people.

NEW 1992 22 g silver invention & discovery compass NGC PF 69 UC

$179 auction starting price.

NEW 1993 22 g silver invention & discovery terracotta army NGC PF 69 UC

$129 auction starting price. Mintage 15,000. Most of these were damaged in Europe, so investment grade coins are very hard to find.

NEW 1993 1 oz silver proof peacock NGC PF 69 UC

$1450 Buy-It-Now.

1993 1 oz silver proof ancient paintings peacock NGC PF 69 UC

$1488 Buy-It-Now, or best offer. Mintage 7000.

NEW 1994 1 oz gold proof unicorn NGC PF 69 UC

$1000 auction starting price. Mintage 857. RARE!

1994 1/4 oz gold proof unicorn NGC PF 69 UC

$2199.99 Buy-It-Now. Mintage 5107. Unicorns have been very hot lately. The expensive prices on these small coins are reflecting their rarity and popularity.

1995 15 g silver invention & discovery fu, lu, shu PCGS PR 69 DCAM

$599.99 Buy-It-Now.

1996 1 oz silver proof unicorn NGC PF 69 UC

$579 Buy-It-Now. Very popular, and prices are rising fast.

1996 1/4 oz gold proof unicorn NGC PF 69 UC

$2399.99 Buy-It-Now. Mintage 2504.

NEW 1997 1 oz silver proof unicorn NGC PF 69 UC

$579 Buy-It-Now.

1999 1 oz silver Beijing expo panda NGC MS 69

$499 Buy-It-Now. Will these EVER stop rising in value? Every time one of you crazy investors buys one of these, I have to list it AGAIN!!! (At a higher price!)

NEW 2002 1 kilo silver 20th anniversary panda NGC PF 69 UC

$9800 Buy-It-Now. Mintage 6000. Rarely seen.

2004, 2005, 2006 1 oz silver beijing coin expo panda 3 coin set NGC PF 69 UC

$850 Buy-It-Now. Mintage 30,000. These are highlighted with gold plating for the expos at China's capital city of Beijing, and are likely to be popular, and thus a good investment. I think they're underpriced right now due to the popularity factor. They're rare, but not rare compared to their price, which makes them seem expensive.

NEW 2005 1 oz silver Beijing expo panda NGC MS 69

$325 Buy-It-Now. Mintage 30,000. Popular because of the official gold plating, and prices are rising fast.

NEW 2010 1 oz silver Shanghai mint 90th anniversary panda NGC MS 69

$499.99 Buy-It-Now, or best offer. Mintage 20,000. RARE! Unusually low mintage for such a recent date, the coins are among the most difficult to find. Last I checked, these do not show up in NGC's database yet, which means they were very recently graded, even though they're from last year! It took THAT LONG for someone in the West to obtain them.



Helpful searches



These are helpful searches for coins, not necessarily a list of recommendations, like the other items in this article. If you didn't see anything you like above, you may find coins on your own here that I have ignored or overlooked. I've included an ebay search widget to show you a sample of search results, when possible (they don't always work, so I leave them out).

I'm not going to be able to keep track of when stuff in these searches sell, so you'll have to let me know if you invest in something from these automated searches, so I can include it in the list of other coins that have sold. It would also be appreciated if you posted your coins in the LBC makes me rich thread. Thank you very much!

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Sold recommendations



Total recommendations sold: $447,093.50

Coins sold from the Modern Chinese coin investments #56 article, total: $85,739.65 (surpassed $400,000 in coins sold from these lists)

Record prices of $600 to $625 on 1996 1 oz silver proof unicorns. Weak prices on all lunars, especially 1988 1 oz silver lunar dragon and 1998 2/3 oz silver scallop plum blossom flower lunar tiger. Dealers raising prices would normally still get a sale, but many coins that had their prices raised too far, too fast did not sell. Buyers becoming more picky as they run low on cash, so top prices were concentrated with the NCS conserved coins. Munich pandas were very quick sells, at top prices too. Overall, buying activity has been very persistent, and didn't slow at all when gold and silver prices pulled back temporarily.

1989 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $360 Apr 03 2011
1989 1 oz silver proof panda NCS NGC PF 69 UC for $310.01 Apr 03 2011
1991 1 oz silver proof panda NCS NGC PF 69 UC for $466.15 Apr 03 2011
1996 1 oz silver proof unicorn PCGS PR 69 DCAM for $600 Apr 03 2011
2005 1/2 oz palladium panda PCGS PR 69 DCAM for $1153.88 Apr 03 2011
1989 1 oz gold lunar snake NGC PF 69 UC for $4213 Apr 02 2011
1992 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $499.99 Apr 02 2011
1992 15 g silver bronze age panther NCS NGC PF 69 UC for $900 Apr 02 2011
1994 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $897 Apr 02 2011
1996 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $797 X 4 Apr 02 2011
1996 1 oz silver proof unicorn PCGS PR 69 DCAM for $550 Apr 02 2011
1998 2/3 oz silver scallop plum blossom flower lunar tiger NCS NGC PF 69 UC for $750 Apr 02 2011
2000 1 kilo silver panda NGC PF 69 UC for $7800 Apr 01 2011
1984 27 g silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $2344 Mar 31 2011
1994 1 oz silver Munich show panda NGC PF 69 UC for $1000 Mar 31 2011
2009 1 oz silver 30th anniversary panda NGC MS 70 for $305 Mar 31 2011
1995 1 oz gold proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $18,700 Mar 30 2011
2007 1/4 oz silver 25th anniversary 1987 proof panda NGC PF 70 UC for $149.99 Mar 30 2011
2009 1 oz silver 30th anniversary panda NGC MS 70 for $306.03 Mar 30 2011
2002 1/2 oz gold panda NGC MS 69 for $1198 Mar 29 2011
2007 1/25 oz gold 2004 25th anniversary panda NGC PF 70 UC for $188.88 Mar 29 2011
1990 1 oz silver vault protector NGC PF 69 UC for $600 Mar 28 2011
1999 1 oz silver modern painting master Zhang Da Qian flower NGC PF 69 UC for $612.50 Mar 28 2011
1984 22 g silver Chinese historical figures terracotta soldier horse NGC PF 69 UC for $499 Mar 27 2011
1986 24 g silver empress of china clipper ship NGC MS 69 for $118.50 Mar 27 2011
1993 1 oz silver Munich show panda NCS NGC PF 69 UC for $1000 Mar 27 2011
1993 1 oz silver proof ancient paintings peacock PCGS PR 69 DCAM for $960 Mar 27 2011
1996 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $860 Mar 27 2011
1998 2/3 oz silver scallop plum blossom flower lunar tiger NGC PF 69 UC for $565 Mar 27 2011
1999 1 oz silver modern painting master Zhang Da Qian bird NGC PF 69 UC for $612.50 Mar 27 2011
2004 1/2 oz palladium panda NGC PF 69 UC for $975 Mar 27 2011
1987 15 g silver lunar rabbit NCS NGC PF 69 UC for $800 Mar 26 2011
1989 1 oz silver proof panda NCS NGC PF 69 UC for $375 Mar 26 2011
1990 1 oz silver vault protector NGC PF 69 UC for $695 Mar 26 2011
1991 1 oz silver Munich show panda NCS NGC PF 69 UC for $1100 Mar 26 2011
1992 1 oz silver Munich show panda NCS NGC PF 69 UC for $1000 Mar 26 2011
1995 15 g silver Chinese traditional culture Peking Opera NGC PF 69 for $299.99 Mar 26 2011 (seller changed from 5 coin set)
1995 22 g silver Chinese traditional culture pagoda of six harmonies NGC PF 69 UC for $299.99 Mar 26 2011
1995 22 g silver Chinese traditional culture lion dance NGC PF 69 UC for $299.99 Mar 26 2011
1986 24 g silver empress of china clipper ship NGC MS 69 for $92.99 Mar 25 2011
1988 1 oz silver lunar dragon NGC PF 69 UC for $465 Mar 25 2011
1989 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $359 Mar 25 2011
1999 1 oz silver small date, large date, large date serif 1 panda 3 coin set NGC MS 69 for $1295 Mar 25 2011
1986 24 g silver empress of china clipper ship NGC MS 69 for $103.61 Mar 24 2011
1988 1 oz gold "Au" version Basel expo panda NGC PF 68 UC for $6850 Mar 24 2011
1985 1/2 oz gold proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $811.18 Mar 24 2011
1989 1 oz gold proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $1975 Mar 24 2011
1994 1/4 oz gold proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $1825 Mar 24 2011
1992 22 g silver invention & discovery compass NGC PF 69 UC for $222.50 Mar 23 2011
1996 1 oz silver proof unicorn NCS NGC PF 69 UC for $625 Mar 23 2011
1998 1 oz gold large date panda NGC MS 69 for $5000 Mar 23 2011
2004 1/2 oz palladium panda NGC PF 70 UC for $1293.98 Mar 23 2011
2009 5 oz silver panda NGC PF 70 UC for $809.99 Mar 23 2011
2009 1 kilo silver panda NGC PF 70 UC for $3300 Mar 23 2011
1992 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $459 Mar 22 2011
1992 1 oz silver Munich show panda NCS NGC PF 69 UC for $900 Mar 22 2011
1993 1 oz silver Munich show panda NCS NGC PF 69 UC for $900 Mar 22 2011
1994 1 oz silver Munich show panda NCS NGC PF 69 UC for $900 Mar 22 2011

Coins sold from the Modern Chinese coin investments #55 article, total: $58,675.37 (surpassed $350,000 in coins sold from these lists)

I am stunned by how many coins sold from this list - over $58,000 worth! The modern Chinese coin market has been extremely hot lately, despite the pullback in precious metals. When precious metals bounced back, the coins got even hotter. Overall, it seems people are in it for the long haul, and they don't care what the other markets are doing - they're going to keep buying.

The supply has been very good, with plenty of lunars, pandas, unicorns, and other types of coins both available for sale, and selling quickly. The supply of coins has depleted many people's cash, which has caused auction listings to sometimes sell for much less than what people are actually willing to pay for the coins. That means that if you're buying, you're probably getting bargains right now.

The unicorns are still increasing in value at an impressive rate. The Beijing expo pandas are also. The lunars have been getting overlooked, and selling cheaper than I think they should, so sellers will probably use the Buy-It-Now listing format more often. Proof pandas in gold and silver are as hot as ever, especially the small size coins and the cheaper silver pandas.

The 1989 1 oz silver panda is the most common one, and in the past it was overlooked in favor of the rarest 1994, 1995, and 1996 pandas. Now, those top 3 rare pandas have plateaued in price while the 1989 has made steady gains. It seems to be consistently very popular, and always available to many eager buyers willing to pay increasingly high prices for it.

One coin that has surprised me at how well it has done is the 2009 1 oz silver 30th anniversary panda in 70 grades. The coin isn't rare in a 69 grade, but the supply of 70 grade coins isn't keeping up with demand for them. While prices for the 69 coins are still dirt cheap at well around $60 to $80, the 70 coins have exploded to over $300 in AUCTIONS! It's not a bunch of fluke Buy-It-Now listings that have pushed prices so high, it's competitive bidding by multiple buyers.

Anything listed as a Buy-It-Now has been getting listed too cheaply, apparently, so I think we'll see more auctions for these coins. I've been listing them fairly consistently lately because I thought they had more popularity potential many of the other 70 coins, and I was right! It's not unobtainable, the price is reasonable, and it's an interesting coin. That has made it popular, and valuable. Congrats to everyone who put one in their collection when they were cheap.

I like expensive coins, but I put coins like this in my list because very often that's where the most profits are made - you can take profits safely too, because the coin isn't so rare that you can never get another one if you make the mistake of selling your only one Smiley

1990 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $374.77 Mar 22 2011
2007 1/25 oz gold 2004 25th anniversary panda NGC PF 70 UC 25 coin set for $3200 Mar 21 2011
1982 1/4 oz gold panda PCGS PR 69 DCAM for $755.05 Mar 20 2011
1982 1/2 oz gold panda PCGS PR 69 DCAM for $1669.40 Mar 20 2011
1987 5 oz silver lunar rabbit NGC PF 69 UC for $2375 Mar 20 2011
1987 1/20 oz gold tokyo coin show panda NGC PF 69 UC for $316 Mar 20 2011
1988 15 g silver lunar dragon NGC PF 69 UC for $648 Mar 20 2011
1988 1 oz silver lunar dragon NGC PF 69 UC for $622.45 Mar 20 2011
1988 5 oz silver lunar dragon NGC PF 69 UC for $2500 Mar 20 2011
1988 5 oz silver panda NGC PF 69 UC for $1050 Mar 20 2011
1989 1 oz silver lunar snake NGC PF 69 UC for $1605 Mar 20 2011
1990 1/20 oz gold proof panda PCGS PR 69 DCAM for $242.50 Mar 20 2011
1990 1/10 oz gold proof panda PCGS PR 69 DCAM for $324.99 Mar 20 2011
1990 8 g gold lunar horse PCGS PR 69 DCAM for $1925 Mar 20 2011
1997 1 oz silver proof unicorn PCGS PR 69 DCAM for $886 Mar 20 2011
1997 1 oz silver Munich show panda NCS NGC PF 69 UC for $1475 Mar 20 2011
1987 1 oz, 5 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC 2 coin set for $1270 Mar 19 2011
1989 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $348 Mar 19 2011
1993 1/20 oz gold proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $998 Mar 19 2011
1994 1/10 oz platinum panda PCGS MS 69 for $1350 Mar 19 2011
1995 1 oz silver goddess Kuan Yin NGC MS 69 for $222.50 Mar 19 2011
1996 1 oz silver goddess Kuan Yin NGC MS 69 for $222.50 Mar 19 2011
1997 1 oz silver goddess Kuan Yin NGC MS 69 for $199 Mar 19 2011
1998 1 oz silver goddess Mazu NGC MS 69 for $138.29 Mar 19 2011
2009 1 oz silver 30th anniversary panda NGC MS 70 for $310.99 Mar 19 2011
2009 1 oz silver 30th anniversary panda NGC MS 70 for $295 X 2 Mar 19 2011
2005 1 oz silver scallop plum blossom flower lunar rooster NGC PF 69 UC for $222.50 Mar 18 2011
2006 1 oz silver scallop plum blossom flower lunar dog NGC PF 69 UC for $250.50 Mar 18 2011
1985 27 g silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $1825 Mar 17 2011
1991 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $405 Mar 17 2011
1992 15 g silver unearthed artifacts bighorn sheep NGC PF 69 UC for $740 Mar 17 2011
1993 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $422.77 Mar 17 2011
1995 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $910 Mar 17 2011
1989 1/4 oz gold panda NGC MS 70 for $698.99 Mar 16 2011
1990 1/4 oz gold panda NGC MS 70 for $787 Mar 16 2011
1997 1/4 oz gold panda NGC MS 70 for $833 Mar 16 2011
1999 1 oz silver Beijing expo panda NGC MS 69 for $425 Mar 16 2011
1988 8 g gold lunar dragon NGC PF 69 UC for $1850 Mar 15 2011
1992 22 g silver invention & discovery seismograph NGC PF 69 UC for $305 Mar 15 2011
1992 22 g silver invention & discovery bronze age urn NGC PF 69 UC for $180.50 Mar 15 2011
1992 22 g silver invention & discovery compass NGC PF 69 UC for $211 Mar 15 2011
1993 22 g silver invention & discovery yin yang NGC PF 69 UC for $210.99 Mar 15 2011
1993 22 g silver invention & discovery terracotta army NGC PF 69 UC for $193.50 Mar 15 2011
1993 22 g silver invention & discovery umbrella NGC PF 69 UC for $211 Mar 15 2011
1989 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $328 Mar 14 2011
1992 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $466 Mar 14 2011
2002 1 oz gold panda PCGS MS 69 for $2298 Mar 14 2011
2009 1 oz silver 30th anniversary panda NGC MS 70 for $305.99 Mar 14 2011
1986 24 g silver empress of china clipper ship NGC MS 69 for $103.62 Mar 13 2011
1987 3.3 oz silver god of longevity NGC PF 69 UC for $1891 Mar 13 2011
1988 1 oz silver lunar dragon NGC PF 69 UC for $650 Mar 13 2011
1988 1 oz silver lunar dragon NGC PF 69 UC for $580 Mar 13 2011
1989 1 oz gold proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $2428 Mar 13 2011
1989 3.3 oz silver god of war & wealth NGC PF 69 UC for $1375.07 Mar 13 2011
1990 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $415 Mar 13 2011
1996 1 oz silver proof unicorn NGC PF 69 UC for $529 Mar 13 2011
1996 1/20 oz gold proof unicorn NGC PF 69 UC for $410 Mar 13 2011
2001 D 1/2 oz gold panda NGC MS 69 for $2645 Mar 13 2011
2002 1 oz silver panda NGC MS 69 for $150 Mar 13 2011
2003 1/10 oz gold Goddess Kuan Yin NGC PF 69 UC 20 coin lot for $7000 Mar 13 2011
2006 1 oz silver scallop plum blossom flower lunar dog NGC PF 69 UC for $250.50 Mar 13 2011
2009 1 oz silver 30th anniversary panda NGC MS 70 for $275 X 2 Mar 13 2011

Coins sold from the Modern Chinese coin investments #54 article, total: $11,831.38 (surpassed $300,000 in coins sold from these lists)

Proof pandas have been selling very well, as usual. The 1989 1 oz silver New York expo panda horse has been making healthy gains, and selling very quickly with each specimen that gets listed. The palladium panda supply has decreased, and that has caused prices to increase, with the last one selling at auction for $991.88, after previously selling as cheaply as the $700 level. The 1998 and 1999 1 oz silver Beijing Expo pandas continue to set records with each sale. Supply of these coins has disappeared since they began showing up in this list, and in the Pricepedia.

The 1986 24 g silver empress of china clipper ship sold at auction for $100, which shows strong demand for a coin that used to sell for $15 to $30 ungraded. Dealers have been buying them up, due to the unusually high profits that were earned on these before they moved up. They still have lots of room to grow.

The great bargains here are the 2001 D 1 oz silver panda that sold for $165 (auction prices are over $200 now), and the 1996 1 oz silver proof panda that sold for $895 (last sale was for $1099). Both of those coins were Buy-It-Now listings that had to be grabbed fast. The quick-thinking buyer earned their profits instantly because both coins were underprice by significant amounts of money. Congrats, whoever you are Smiley

1989 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $288 Mar 12 2011
1992 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $459 Mar 12 2011
2009 1 oz silver 30th anniversary panda NGC MS 70 for $266 Mar 12 2011
1986 24 g silver empress of china clipper ship NGC MS 70 for $399 Mar 11 2011
1989 1 oz silver New York expo panda horse NCS NGC PF 69 UC for $800 Mar 11 2011
2003 1 oz silver panda NGC MS 70 for $410 Mar 11 2011
1986 24 g silver empress of china clipper ship NGC MS 69 for $100 Mar 10 2011
1999 1 oz silver Beijing Expo panda NGC MS 69 for $399 Mar 10 2011
1996 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $1099 Mar 09 2011
2007 1/4 oz silver proof 25th anniversary panda 25 coin set for $820 Mar 09 2011
1985 27 g silver panda NGC PF 69 UC for $2325.50 Mar 08 2011
1996 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $895 Mar 08 2011
1989 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $288 Mar 07 2011
1991 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $375 Mar 07 2011
1993 1 oz silver Munich show panda NGC PF 69 UC for $795 Mar 07 2011
2002 1/20 oz gold panda NGC MS 69 for $211 Mar 07 2011
2004 1/2 oz palladium panda PCGS PR 69 DCAM for $991.88 Mar 07 2011
2006 1 oz silver scallop plum blossom flower lunar dog NGC PF 69 UC for $295 Mar 07 2011
1998 1 oz silver Beijing Expo panda NGC MS 69 for $450 Mar 06 2011
2001 D 1 oz silver panda PCGS MS 69 for $165 Mar 06 2011

Coins sold from the Modern Chinese coin investments #53 article, total: $9262.12

The 2002 1 oz silver panda in a 70 grade sold for a top price of $585, which is almost 600% of the 69 grade. Grade matters.

The 2001 D 1 oz silver panda set a record price of $202.51, which has left some of the others in the dust. With a new price set, it's bargain hunting time - many sellers are still selling the coins for the same price they did a month ago.

The 1992 1/4 oz horse and dragon sold very fast for $2550 because it was conserved by NCS. It's the first coin that has taken advantage of my offer to list NCS conserved coins here in my article, and the seller was rewarded with a top price, while the buyer got a very rare coin that's going to be worth much more in the future.

The 2007 1/25 oz gold 25th anniversary pandas are the gold counterparts to the 2007 1/4 oz silver 25th anniversary proof pandas I've been talking about frequently. I don't list the coins in a 69 grade because I don't think they're particularly rare for the money you have to put into them. However, I have been listing them in a 70 grade, and they've moved up from around $130 to the present $224.50 price level for one with a 2000 panda design.

The unicorns have been moving up at a shocking pace. First it was the 1995 1 oz silver that passed $1000 in a previous article, and now it's the 1996 that's less rare, but just passed the $500 level very quickly. All the unicorns are getting plucked from the market as fast as they appear. There are several buyers grabbing these things, so it's been interesting to watch.

The 2005 1 oz silver panda in a 70 grade was cheap at $245, so it was no surprise that it sold quickly after I listed it. I've been watching coins near that date hit the $300 level.

1982 1/2 oz gold panda NGC MS 69 for $1625 Mar 06 2011
1986 24 g silver empress of china clipper ship NGC MS 69 for $96.11 Mar 06 2011
1996 1 oz silver proof unicorn PCGS PR 69 DCAM for $535 Mar 06 2011
1992 1/4 oz gold horse NCS NGC PF 69 UC for $2550 Mar 05 2011
2001 D 1 oz silver panda NGC MS 69 for $202.51 Mar 05 2011
2002 1 oz silver panda NGC MS 69 for $90 Mar 05 2011
2002 1 oz silver panda NGC MS 70 for $585 Mar 05 2011
2005 1 oz silver panda NGC MS 70 for $245 Mar 05 2011
2007 1/4 oz silver proof 25th anniversary panda 25 coin set for $1036 Mar 05 2011
2007 1/25 oz gold 2000 25th anniversary panda NGC PF 70 UC for $224.50 Mar 05 2011
1988 1/2 oz gold proof panda PCGS PR 69 DCAM for $1225 Mar 04 2011
1991 15 g silver lunar goat NGC PF 69 UC for $398 Mar 04 2011
1996 1 oz silver proof unicorn PCGS PR 69 DCAM for $450 Mar 03 2011

Coins sold from the Modern Chinese coin investments #52 article, total: $17,762.62

This article covered a bit less than half as many days as the previous article, and the intensity of the sales activity is about the same. The market is so hot right now that it's exhausting to watch. It's not slowing down either, even though I'm feeling a bit burned out just with my own purchases. Trying to keep track of everyone else's has been quite a task! The funny thing is that the market seems to be getting even more active, instead of plateauing or slowing down. I suppose I'm doing the same thing with my own purchases, even though I'm feeling quite mentally tired from all the activity. I'm sure many of you reading this feel the same way, but the buying and selling continues!

A 1995 1 oz silver proof panda sold for a bargain price of $888.88 when previous sales were near or over the $1000 level. I'm sure the seller was taking a quick profit on a 3 day auction so he could buy more coins. Congratulations to whoever got that coin for such a good price.

A 1996 sold by the same seller went for a bargain price of $749 also.

The 1989 pandas just don't seem to want to stop. They're selling very strongly at the $280 level, and ungraded prices have boomed from around $100 all the way to over $200. That indicates that dealers are buying them up so they can send more in for grading in the hope that they'll get nice 69 grades and a healthy profit.

The 1989 saving children fund coin sold for $428, which is a VERY strong price for that coin. It has a mintage of 30,000 - a bit higher than the regular 1989 1 oz silver proof panda that sells for about $280. So, a slightly less-rare coin that's not even part of the regular panda series is selling for almost DOUBLE the price of a similar coin - why? It's all about the popularity! Popularity is THE MOST IMPORTANT factor to consider for coin investing. The saving children fund coin has a panda on it, which is good, but it also has children on it, which makes it much more "cute". Cute things are popular, just like powerful things are - like dragons, horses, and tigers. Very interesting!

The 1985 proof panda sold for $2275, which is a very strong price. I've been criticized for my prediction that proof pandas will be selling for $10,000 each in the next decade or so.  Well, this coin is just solidly passed the $2000 level...

The 2008 5 oz silver panda in a 70 grade failed to exceed the $1000 level like I thought it would. The mintage is low, but the coins haven't been receiving enough demand to both pull them off the market, and drive prices up to where I thought they should be. It sold for $890 instead, which I think was a very good price, but I'm not quite so excited about the bargain priced-ness of it as I am about the 1995 and 1996 1 oz coins that sold cheaply. I think the 5 oz coins still have a ways to go to prove themselves to be as popular as the normal sized coins. This is why I don't list 5 oz coins very often. I usually only list them if they're particularly rare for the grade they have - that's 69 for older coins, and 70 for newer coins.

We saw several very interesting coins that are almost never sent in for grading from the seller "seaclassic". The coins were a dragon & phoenix and an invention & discovery cast Chinese coins coin. They both sold for high prices that are going to seem dirt cheap in a few months.

The 1998 1 oz silver gold plated Beijing Expo pandas sold very quickly after the article mentioned them in the opening commentary. Their time has come, and they have moved up FAST in value, to nearly the $400 level. That's still pretty cheap though, since I expect their 1998 date and their beauty to make them among the most popular of silver pandas. Their rarity will seal the deal and make certain that they continue to cost increasingly large amounts of money. I expect them to reach the $1000 level some time this year, but maybe in just a few months now that the world is looking for them.

A 1993 silver scallop rooster sold for almost $900, which I think is the highest price ever paid for a silver scallop lunar coin, not including the key dragon coin. A graded dragon has not been seen for quite a long time, so if one were to surface, I expect it to easily pass the $1000 level, and maybe go substantially higher.

The star of the show was by far the 2000 1/2 oz gold scallop plum blossom flower lunar dragon PCGS PR 69 DCAM that sold for $5995. I know it was underpriced by several thousand dollars, but this coin is so rarely seen that I'm not sure exactly how underpriced it was. The previous one that sold was sold during the slowdown on December 12th for very close to the same price. All the other coins in the same series have doubled in price, or more, in the months since the last dragon was sold. Since the dragon is the key of the series, it seems logical to me that it should have doubled in price also, if not more. A doubling would put the correct value of that coin at well over $10,000 but the seller listed it in a Buy-It-Now for the same price it was selling for several months ago. It only lasted a few minutes before somebody grabbed it. Nearly $6000 burned a hole in somebody's wallet like stick of dynamite burns a hole into the side of a mountain...WOW, what a bargain!

1990 1/10 oz platinum panda NGC PF 69 UC for $700 Mar 02 2011
1995 1/20 oz gold panda NGC MS 70 for $1188.88 Mar 02 2011
1995 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $888.88 Mar 02 2011
1996 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $749 Mar 01 2011
1989 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $279 Feb 28 2011
2000 1/2 oz gold scallop plum blossom flower lunar dragon PCGS PR 69 DCAM for $5995 Feb 28 2011
2008 5 oz silver panda NGC PF 70 UC for $890 Feb 28 2011
1985 27 g silver panda NGC PF 69 UC for $2275 Feb 27 2011
1987 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $600 Feb 27 2011
1989 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $280 Feb 27, $275 Feb 14 2011
1989 22 g silver proof saving children fund panda NGC PF 69 UC for $428 Feb 27 2011
1990 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $399 Feb 27 2011
1990 1 oz silver proof dragon & phoenix NGC PF 69 UC for $756 Feb 27 2011
1992 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $450 Feb 27 2011
1992 15 g invention & discovery ancient Chinese coins NGC PF 69 UC for $250 Feb 27 2011
1993 2/3 oz silver scallop plum blossom flower lunar rooster NGC PF 69 UC for $898.88 Feb 27 2011
1998 1 oz silver beijing expo panda NGC MS 69 for $399.99 Feb 27, $299.99 Jan 11 2011
2007 1/25 oz gold 2004 25th anniversary panda NGC PF 70 UC for $159.99 Feb 27 2011

Coins sold from the Modern Chinese coin investments #51 article, total: $55,579.50 (surpassed $250,000 in coins sold from these lists)

Buying is the most aggressive I've seen in a long time. I've seen many, many listings that have both a higher Buy-It-Now price and a lower auction starting price. During normal market conditions, the Buy-It-Now price is above the market value, and the auction starting price is right at the market value. Buyers normally will place a bid at the auction starting price, and the coin will sell with just one bid.

Now I'm seeing buyers just grabbing the coins at the Buy-It-Now price to eliminate the possibility that someone else might bid the coin up higher. The shocking thing is that sometimes the difference between the Buy-It-Now price and the auction starting price is several hundred dollars! That's like saying "I'm going to pay an extra $500 just to make sure no one can outbid me for this coin". Amazing.

These Buy-It-Now prices that people are paying are not cheap either. Some coins are being listed at old prices because the sellers aren't aware prices have increased. That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about rare, desirable investment-grade coins in this list here that have had their prices adjusted upwards, and are still getting grabbed at whatever price will get the coin locked in for the buyer.

For example, it happened on the 1997 three kingdoms coin that sold for $3500. The auction starting price was a few hundred dollars cheaper at $3150, but the buyer decided it was worth $3500 to beat everyone else in obtaining that coin, instead of gambling for a cheaper price. That's some seriously aggressive buying, by a whole lot of people with plenty of money, who are trying to cut short any possible bidding war.

I've noticed that when one coin is listed for a Buy-It-Now of $529, and another is listed at auction for a much lower price, the coin that's on a Buy-It-Now will go unsold, while the auction price will get pushed up to even MORE than the Buy-It-Now coin. That's what happened with a pair of 1992 1 oz silver proof pandas in the last article. One coin just sat there for the bargain Buy-It-Now price of $529, while the coin on auction got pushed up to $540. Even after the auction was over, the cheaper $529 coin still went unnoticed, even by the second highest bidder who was willing to pay $530 for the auction coin. This is a well-known phenomenon in auctions. If the starting price for a coin is too low, it will draw much more attention than a coin that's fairly priced. As strong as the market is right now, if you sell, you want to sell at auction.

The 1994 1 oz silver proof panda set a new record at $1250, which I believe to be the highest price ever paid for a 1 oz silver proof panda from the 1989 to 1996 series. I call these $10,000 pandas, which left people quite skeptical at first. There's still many people who find it hard to believe that these pandas will cost you $10k in the next decade, but  we're already well on our way to $2000 - a price that seemed silly a few months ago when you could have bought one of them for around $300!

No lie, I feel the pain, because I sold one of mine near that price level - but I got a good coin in return for it, so I guess it's OK...I still miss my 1994, and watching it triple in price leaves me wonder if maybe I should figure out another way to fund coin purchase that doesn't involve selling coins. I make more money just looking at them than I do by selling them...that's why the market can dry up so fast - sellers stop selling when they make more money by keeping the coins!

The 2007 25th anniversary pandas are performing well, and holding gains. They're not as plentiful as they used to be, and whenever they appear for sale, they're selling for strong prices. The prices aren't steady yet though, so it's tough to predict what they'll sell for. As the supply gets mopped up, you'll continue to see gradual price gains, with bargains appearing from time to time until they're gone.

The rare gold and silver unicorns have been on fire, with record prices on each one sold.

This has been an exciting week for all coins.

1994 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $1250 Feb 27, 2011
1998 1 oz silver "reduced size" lunar tiger NGC PF 69 UC for $610 Feb 27, 2011
2007 1/4 oz silver proof 25th anniversary panda 25 coin set for $810 Feb 27, 2011
1986 gold proof panda 5 coin set NGC PF 69 UC for $4950 Feb 26, 2011
1993 1 oz silver proof panda PCGS PR 69 DCAM for $988 Feb 26, 2011
1995 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $1025 Feb 26, 2011
2004 1/2 oz palladium panda NGC PF 69 UC for $932.22 Feb 26, 2011
1995 1/10 oz gold proof unicorn PCGS PR 69 DCAM for $1680 Feb 25, 2011
1997 5 oz silver three kindgoms NGC PF 69 UC for $3500 Feb 25, 2011
1988 5 oz gold panda NGC PF 69 UC for $12888 Feb 24, 2011
1989 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $275 Feb 24, 2011
1994 1 oz silver lunar dog NGC PF 69 UC for $585 Feb 24, 2011
2002 1 oz silver panda NGC MS 69 for $132.49 Feb 24, 2011
2005 1 oz silver panda NGC MS 70 for $300 Feb 24, 2011
1991 15 g silver lunar goat NGC PF 69 UC for $350 Feb 23, 2011
2001 D 1 oz silver panda NGC MS 69 for $170 Feb 23, 2011
2008, 2009, 2009 1 oz silver panda 3 coin lot NGC MS 70 for $350 Feb 23, 2011
1986 24 g silver empress of china clipper ship NGC MS 70 for $385 Feb 22, 2011
2000 1/20 oz gold frosted panda NGC MS 69 for $200 Feb 22, 2011
2005 5 oz silver panda NGC PF 69 UC for $3800 Feb 22, 2011
2007 1/25 oz gold 2004 25th anniversary panda NGC PF 70 UC for $139.99 Feb 22, 2011
1986 24 g silver empress of china clipper ship NGC MS 70 for $385 Feb 20, 2011
1989 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $275.95 Feb 20, 2011
1989 1 oz gold proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $2355 Feb 20, 2011
1993 2/3 oz silver scallop plum blossom flower lunar rooster NGC PF 69 UC for $760 Feb 20, 2011
1995 15 g silver fu lu shu NGC PF 69 UC for $425 Feb 20, 2011
2001 D 1 oz silver panda PCGS MS 69 for $150 Feb 20, 2011
2007 1/4 oz silver 2004 25th anniversary panda PCGS PR 69 DCAM for $82 Feb 20, 2011
2007 1/4 oz silver proof 25th anniversary panda 25 coin set for $807 Feb 20, 2011
2008 1 oz silver olympic kite flying NGC PF 70 UC for $199.95 Feb 20, 2011
1986 gold proof panda 5 coin set NGC PF 69 UC for $6500 Feb 19, 2011
1989 1 oz silver New York expo panda horse NGC PF 69 UC for $688.88 Feb 19, 2011
1990 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $329 Feb 19, 2011
1991 bimetallic 25 yuan coin and hong kong expo 2 coin set NGC PF 69 UC for $4450 Feb 19, 2011
1992 1 oz silver proof panda PCGS PR 69 DCAM for $540 Feb 19, 2011
1995 1 oz silver proof unicorn NGC PF 69 UC for $1020 Feb 19, 2011
1995 1 oz silver kuan yin NGC MS 69 for $266 Feb 19, 2011
2007 1/4 oz silver proof 25th anniversary panda 25 coin set for $1025.02 Feb 19, 2011

Coins sold from the Modern Chinese coin investments #50 article, total: $23,701.35 (surpassed $200,000 in coins sold from these lists)

Just look at how many coins sold! WOW! This is the most aggressive buying action from these lists since I began doing them a few months ago. The market is no longer in a slowdown. It's officially HOT!

The best bargain that got snagged was the 1986 1/20 oz gold proof panda. It sold for only $164.50! That's roughly 1/10th of what I think that coin SHOULD be selling for in the near future. Other dates have been selling for around $250 to $500 right now, so no matter how you look at it, the coin sold cheap. It has a mintage of only 10,000 with many of them destroyed through usage in Jewerly. A silver proof panda with a similar mintage in high grade would sell for around $700 to $1800, depending on the year. Whoever bought that coin made a very good investment.

Also interesting is the aggressive buying action on the 1996 1 oz silver proof unicorns. Full asking prices are being paid, and new records are being set. 3 of them sold for over $450, when they were selling for only around $280 just a few weeks ago. WOW!

The 1 oz silver lunar coins are very hot too. It looks like it's going to be hard to get them under $400 from now on.

The 1988 1 oz gold Hong Kong Expo medal sold $8600, which was a bit more than my maximum "bargain" estimate of $8000. In general, coins are starting to exceed my price estimates, instead of falling short as they were during the slowdown. These are exciting times again.

1991 1/4 oz gold proof pandas NGC PF 69 UC for $1100 Feb 19, 2011
1989 5 oz silver panda NGC PF 69 UC for $1000 Feb 19, 2011
1986 1/20 oz gold proof panda PCGS PR 69 DCAM for $165.50 Feb 18, 2011
1988 1 oz gold hong kong expo panda dragon NGC PF 69 UC for $8600 Feb 18, 2011
1988 1 oz platinum lunar dragon NGC PF 69 UC for $6200 Feb 18, 2011
1988 1 oz silver dragon NGC PF 69 UC for $770 Feb 18, 2011
1992 1 oz silver lunar monkey NGC PF 69 UC for $365 Feb 18, 2011
1992 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $399 Feb 18, 2011
1996 1 oz silver proof unicorn NGC PF 69 UC for $454.95 X 3 Feb 18, 2011
1996 1 oz silver piedfort kuan yin NGC PF 69 UC for $650 Feb 18, 2011
2006 1 oz silver scallop plum blossom flower lunar dog NGC PF 69 UC for $270 Feb 18, 2011
2006 1 oz silver scallop plum blossom flower lunar dog NGC PF 69 UC for $270 Feb 18, 2011
1994 1/4 oz gold proof unicorn NGC PF 69 UC for $1500 Feb 17, 2011
1996 1 oz silver proof unicorn NGC PF 69 UC for $399 Feb 17, 2011
1996 1 oz silver proof unicorn NGC PF 69 UC for $399 Feb 17, 2011 (LBC makes me rich)
2004 1 oz silver beijing expo panda NGC MS 69 for $249 Feb 17, 2011

Coins sold from the Modern Chinese coin investments #49 article, total: $9304

Once again, 1989 coins are being bought very aggressively. The prices for the 1989 1 oz silver proof panda are quickly moving back up to the peak offering price of $299, with the highest sale at $275. That's some very unusual strong buying we're seeing. I don't have an explanation for it either. I suspect the coin is seen as a bargain, due to its low price compared to the other proof pandas. It is an attractive first investment to make, on a coin that can't be called overpriced due to massive gains yet, unlike some of the others that earlier had doubled or tripled in just a few months.

Small size gold proof pandas are extremely hot right now. Record prices all around, on rarely seen and hard to find investment-grade coins. Compared to their full-size counterparts, they're more affordable, and very attractive investments due to the larger number of people who can afford to drive the prices upward on them.

The 2000 scallop dragon was a coin that I had overlooked (on purpose or by accident, I wont say, hehe). I was surprised to see them both sell very quickly after they were brought to everyone's attention by FanOfBadon in the comments on my last article. They're the key coin for the silver scallop series, and although I think the nearly $1000 price is high, it's nothing compared to where it'll be in the future. With a mintage of only 6800, and increasing popularity, it's likely they'll end up being $10,000 coins along with the many other comparatively inexpensive coins that are included in my list when they come available.

1994 1/4 oz gold proof panda PCGS PR 69 UC for $1598 Feb 16, 2011
1989 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $250 Feb 15, 2011
1990 1/2 oz gold proof panda PCGS PR 69 DCAM for $1275 Feb 15, 2011
1992 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $399 Feb 15, 2011 (LBC makes me rich private sale)
1993 1/2 oz gold proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $3250 Feb 15, 2011
1989 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $275 Feb 14, 2011
1989 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $259 Feb 14, 2011
2000 2/3 oz silver scallop plum blossom flower lunar dragon PCGS PR 69 DCAM for $999 X 2 Feb 14, 2011

Coins sold from the Recommended modern Chinese coin investments #48 article, total: $7972.79

Somebody got a great bargain on the 2007 1/4 oz silver 25th anniversary panda NGC PF 70 UC. It went for only $63.01, when my estimate was $180. I've been told my enthusiasm for these coins is a bit too emphatic, and that may be the case, but even those who are telling me that agree that $63 for one of these was a bargain price. I would have bought it myself, but I was busy writing this article, and didn't notice it going WAY too cheaply!

The lunar coins did very well, especially the 1989 1 oz gold snake. It has a mintage of 3000, and sold for over $4000! There are several coins in this list right now with mintages lower than that, and many cost a small fraction of that price. That's a clue about where prices are going on the underpriced coins. Notice the difference that a little extra rarity and popularity can make - 8 g gold snake from the same year has a little more than double the mintage, so you would intuitively guess that it'd sell for half the price, right? Well, it sold for about 1/5 the price. A little rarity and a lot of popularity goes a LONG way.

1988 8 g gold lunar dragon NGC PF 69 UC for $1075 Feb 13, 2011
1989 8 g gold lunar snake NGC PF 69 UC for $750 Feb 13, 2011
1989 1 oz gold lunar snake NGC PF 69 UC for $4055.56 Feb 13, 2011
2007 1/4 oz silver 2004 25th anniversary panda NGC PF 70 UC for $63.01 Feb 13, 2011
1995 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $899 Feb 11, 2011
2007 1/4 oz silver proof 25th anniversary panda 25 coin set for $822.22 Feb 11, 2011
2002 1 oz silver panda NGC MS 69 for $86 Feb 10, 2011
1995 1/20 oz gold small date panda NGC MS 69 for $222 Feb 10, 2011

Coins sold from the Recommended modern Chinese coin investments #47 article, total: $1123

1990, 1991, and 1992 coins are the sold items of the day. Funny how that comes right after the hoard of 1989 coins that were bought up just prior. Probably a temporary anomaly, but I don't think so. Overall, not an exciting set of sales, but the worldwide markets were slower today after a temporary rally in the U.S. Dollar. That really is only temporary. Prices have been increasing noticeably, and fewer coins are being listed. I'm hearing reports of sellers delisting their coins, or claiming to have "lost" it after someone purchases it. A few good coins have been getting listed though, but at higher prices.

1990 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $309 Feb 09, 2011
1991 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $399 Feb 09, 2011
1992 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $415 Feb 09, 2011

Coins sold from the Recommended modern Chinese coin investments #46 article, total: $5604

What's up with the 1989 coins? For whatever reason, all the hottest coins are dated 1989. 1989 1 oz silver proof pandas continue to be bought up aggressively, with the cheaper coins disappearing quickly. Anything $299 and under has been getting bought up. The American expo medals are also still selling well, especially the 1989 1 oz silver with a mintage of only 4000.

1999 1 oz gold large date panda NGC MS 70 for $4550 Feb 08, 2011
1989 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 DCAM for $255 Feb 08, 2011
1989 1 oz silver proof panda PCGS PR 69 DCAM for $299 Feb 07, 2011
1989 1 oz silver New York expo panda horse NGC PF 69 UC for $500 Feb 07, 2011 (private sale, LBC makes me rich)

Coins sold from the Recommended modern Chinese coin investments #45 article, total: $4296.99

Sales are strong again, with many proof silver pandas being bought aggressively. Small size coins are selling quickly, or being removed from sale offerings, sometimes before the article gets published. Proof silver pandas were the star of the show, by far, but the other coins that sold went for very strong prices, especially coins with dragons and horses on them. 1989 1 oz silver proof pandas were on fire for some reason. Prices hit the $299 level, which I think is a new record for that coin. If not a new record, then at least it's back up to where it was before the slowdown started. Very impressive performance overall.

1989 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $279 Feb 05, 2011
1996 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $718.88 Feb 05, 2011
2007 1/25 oz gold 25th anniversary 2004 panda NGC PF 70 UC for $129.99 Feb 05, 2011
1988 1 oz silver piedfort lunar dragon NGC PF 69 UC for $688 Feb 04, 2011
1990 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $309 Feb 04, 2011
1989 1/4 oz gold new york expo panda horse NGC PF 69 UC for $873 Feb 04, 2011 (LBC makes me rich)
1989 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $260 Feb 04, 2011
1989 1 oz silver proof panda PCGS PR 69 DCAM for $299 Feb 04, 2011
1990 1 g gold proof dragon & phoenix NGC PF 69 UC for $400 Feb 03, 2011
1993 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $340.12 Feb 03, 2011

Coins sold from the Recommended modern Chinese coin investments #44 article, total: $2686.72

Sales were strong for this article. Prices are still reduced from their recent peak, but they're climbing upward again. The star of the show was the 1988 1 oz gold san francisco expo dragon medal that sold for $3250. That's a nice price for a medal, and evidence that my article detailing why medals matter was correct.

1987 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $405 Feb 03, 2011
1990 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $227.62 Feb 03, 2011
1993 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $340.12 Feb 03, 2011
1996 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $680 Feb 03, 2011
1996 1 oz silver proof unicorn NGC PF 69 UC for $330.98 Feb 03, 2011
1988 1 oz gold san francisco expo dragon NGC PF 69 UC for $3250 Feb 02, 2011

Coins sold from the Recommended modern Chinese coin investments #43 article, total: $928.99

1990 1/10 oz platinum proof panda PCGS PR 69 DCAM for $699 Feb 02, 2011
1986 24 g silver empress of china clipper ship NGC MS 69 for $100 Feb 02, 2011
2007 1/25 oz gold 25th anniversary 2004 panda NGC PF 70 UC for $129.99 Feb 01, 2011

Coins sold from the Recommended modern Chinese coin investments #42 article, total: $2241.59

The 1990 dragon & phoenix coin achieved strong price that I believe is a new record. The coin was previously not considered rare, but now it is, and it earned almost $400! The 1997 unicorn was listed with a Buy-It-Now price of only $115, but greedy buyers decided to try to bid on it instead at its auction starting price of $99 to shave a few dollars off the price. In the end, they just had to pay more, as the coin almost reached $125 in auction. Pay the asking price, and get the coin! Don't be a cheapskate. The historical figures Beethoven coin was a disappointment at only $80. I think it is easily worth $100+, but The Market has spoken...I consider it a bargain. The 1986 empress of China coin sold at auction for almost $90, which I think is an excellent price, and shows some solid strength in the demand for that coin. Prices have been increasing for both raw and graded coins, with 69 and 70 graded coins selling for very profitable prices from a dealer perspective, and motivating them to submit more of them for grading. The 70 coins are the real stunners to watch for though, with MASSIVE premiums over the price of a 69.

1990 1 oz silver dragon & phoenix NGC PF 69 UC for $395 Feb 01, 2011
2007 1/4 oz silver proof 25th anniversary panda 25 coin set for $777.77 Jan 31, 2011 (LBC makes me rich)
2006 1 oz silver scallop plum blossom flower lunar dog NGC PF 69 UC for $275 Jan 31, 2011
2002 1 oz silver panda PCGS MS 69 for $99 Jan 31, 2011
1997 1 oz silver unicorn NGC MS 69 for $124.49 Jan 31, 2011
1990 1 oz silver world historical figures Beethoven NGC PF 69 UC for $80 Jan 31, 2011
1986 24 g silver empress of china clipper ship NGC MS 69 for $89.88 Jan 31, 2011
1996 1 oz silver proof unicorn NGC PF 69 UC for $399.95 Jan 30, 2011

Coins sold from the Recommended modern Chinese coin investments #41 article, total: $2620.99 (surpassed $150,000 in coins sold from these lists)

2007 1/25 oz gold 25th anniversary 2004 panda NGC PF 70 UC for $129.99 Jan 30, 2011
1990 1/4 oz gold proof panda PCGS PR 69 DCAM for $750 Jan 29, 2011
1984 27 g silver panda NGC PF 69 UC for $1741 Jan 29, 2011

Coins sold from the Recommended modern Chinese coin investments #40 article, total: $5665

1988 1 oz platinum lunar dragon NGC PF 69 UC for $5500 Jan 26, 2011
2001 D 1 oz silver panda PCGS MS 69 for $165 Jan 25, 2011

Coins sold from the Recommended modern Chinese coin investments #39 article, total: $4254.23

1990 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $299 Jan 25, 2011
1987 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $631.23 Jan 24, 2011
1990 1/2 oz gold proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $1198 Jan 24, 2011
1990 1/2 oz gold proof panda PCGS PR 69 DCAM for $1298 Jan 24, 2011
2007 1/4 oz silver proof 25th anniversary panda 25 coin set for $699 Jan 24, 2011
1986 24 g silver empress of china clipper ship NGC MS 69 for $120 Jan 23, 2011

Coins sold from the Recommended modern Chinese coin investments #38 article, total: $2183.44

2005 1 oz silver panda NGC MS 70 for $151 Jan 23, 2011
2007 1/4 oz silver proof 25th anniversary panda 25 coin set for $740.45 Jan 23, 2011
2007 1/4 oz silver proof 25th anniversary panda 25 coin set for $610 Jan 23, 2011
2007 1/4 oz silver 25th anniversary 1997 proof panda PCGS PR 69 DCAM for $94 Jan 23, 2011
2007 1/4 oz silver 25th anniversary 2005 proof panda PCGS PR 69 DCAM for $94 Jan 23, 2011
2007 1/4 oz silver 25th anniversary 2006 proof panda PCGS PR 69 DCAM for $112.50 Jan 23, 2011
2009 1 oz silver 30th anniversary panda PCGS MS 70 for $161.50 Jan 23, 2011
1992 15 g silver marco polo NGC PF 69 UC for $219.99 Jan 22, 2011

Coins sold from the Recommended modern Chinese coin investments #37 article, total: $4855

1992 15 g silver marco polo NGC PF 69 UC for $199 Jan 22, 2011
1992 1 oz silver proof panda PCGS PR 69 DCAM for $499 Jan 22, 2011
1994 1 oz silver proof panda PCGS PR 69 DCAM for $900 Jan 22, 2011
1996 1 oz silver unicorn NGC PF 69 UC for $399 Jan 22, 2011
1994 1/4 oz gold proof panda PCGS PR 69 DCAM for $1598 Jan 21, 2011
1982 1/10 oz gold panda NGC MS 69 for $710 Jan 20, 2011
1988 1 oz silver proof dragon NGC PF 69 UC for $550 Jan 20, 2011

Coins sold from the Recommended modern Chinese coin investments #36 article, total: $8451.96

1990 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $299 Jan 20, 2011
2002 2/3 oz silver scallop plum blossom flower lunar horse for $976 Jan 19, 2011
2000 2/3 oz silver scallop plum blossom flower lunar dragon for $808.08 Jan 19, 2011
1993 1 oz silver fu lu shu NGC MS 69 for $263.88 Jan 19, 2011
1993 1/2 oz gold Mao Tse-Tung NGC PF 69 UC for $4800 Jan 19, 2011
1981 15 g silver lunar rooster NGC PF 69 UC for $1305 Jan 19, 2011

Coins sold from the Recommended modern Chinese coin investments #35 article, total: $399

1996 1 oz silver unicorn NGC PF 69 UC for $399 Jan 18, 2011

Coins sold from the Recommended modern Chinese coin investments #34 article, total: $11944.01

1988 1 oz platinum lunar dragon NGC PF 69 UC for $5600.01 Jan 17, 2011
1990 1 oz platinum horse NGC PF 69 UC for $5145 Jan 17, 2011

1992 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $450 Jan 16, 2011
1996 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $749 Jan 16, 2011

Coins sold from the Recommended modern Chinese coin investments #33 article, total: $7008.02

1996 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $771.04 Jan 16, 2011
1993 1/10 oz gold proof panda PCGS PR 69 DCAM for $1098 Jan 16, 2011
2007 1/4 oz silver proof 25th anniversary panda 25 coin set NGC PF 69 UC for $1095 Jan 15, 2011
1996 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $745 Jan 15, 2011
1989 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $255 Jan 14, 2011
1990 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $299.99 Jan 14, 2011
1993 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $599.99 Jan 14, 2011
2004 1/2 oz palladium panda NGC PF 69 UC for $895 Jan 14, 2011
1992 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $450 Jan 12, 2011
1995 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $799 Jan 11, 2011

Coins sold from the Recommended modern Chinese coin investments #32 article, total: $4741.88 (passed $100k in sold recommended investments)

1996 1 oz silver proof unicorn NGC PF 69 UC for $329 Jan 11, 2011
1996 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $729 Jan 11, 2011
1996 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $741 Jan 11, 2011
1995 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $765 Jan 11, 2011
1994 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $888.88 Jan 11, 2011
1993 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $404 Jan 11, 2011
1991 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $355 Jan 11, 2011
1990 1 oz silver proof panda PCGS PR 69 DCAM for $275 Jan 11, 2011
1989 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $255 Jan 11, 2011

Coins sold from the Recommended modern Chinese coin investments #31 article, total: $3701

2004 1/4 oz palladium panda NGC PF 69 UC for $895 Jan 10, 2011
1993 5 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $2561 Jan 10, 2011
2008 1 oz silver panda NGC MS 70 for $150 Jan 10, 2011
1991 silver Albert Eintstein NGC PF 69 UC for $95 Jan 09, 2011

Coins sold from the Recommended modern Chinese coin investments #30 article, total: $299.99

1989 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $250 Jan 08, 2011
2007 1/4 oz silver proof 25th anniversary 2001-2002 panda PCGS PR 69 DCAM for $49.99 Jan 08, 2011

Coins sold from the Recommended modern Chinese coin investments #29 article, total: $4715.61

1992 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $450 Jan 08, 2011
1996 1 oz silver proof unicorn NGC PF 69 UC for $299 Jan 08, 2011
1999 1/4 oz gold large date serif panda NGC MS 69 for $3049.99 Jan 08, 2011
2005 1 oz silver panda NGC MS 70 for $143.60 Jan 08, 2011
2008 1 oz silver proof panda NGC MS 70 for $161.50 Jan 08, 2011
2009 1 oz silver panda NGC MS 70 for $159.51 Jan 08, 2011
2009 1 oz silver proof panda NGC MS 70 for $139.95 Jan 08, 2011
1989 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $250 Jan 07, 2011
2009 1 oz silver 30th anniversary panda NGC MS 69 for $62.06 Jan 07, 2011

Coins sold from the Recommended modern Chinese coin investments #28 article, total: $998

2007 1/4 oz silver proof 25th anniversary panda 25 coin set for $700 Jan 07, 2011
1990 1/10 oz gold proof pandas PCGS PR 69 DCAM for $298 Jan 06, 2011

Coins sold from the Recommended modern Chinese coin investments #27 article, total: $18595

1989 8 g gold lunar snake NGC PF 69 UC for $800 Jan 06, 2011
1998 1 oz gold large date panda NGC MS 69 for $5500 Jan 06, 2011
2004 1/2 oz palladium panda NGC PF 69 UC for $895 Jan 06, 2011
2008 5 oz gold panda NGC MS 70 for $11,400 Jan 06, 2011

Coins sold from the Recommended modern Chinese coin investments #26 article, total: $869.95

2007 1/4 oz silver proof 25th anniversary panda 25 coin set for $700 Jan 04, 2011
2005 1 oz silver panda NGC MS 70 for $169.95 Jan 04, 2011

Coins sold from the Recommended modern Chinese coin investments #25 article, total: $823

1998 2/3 oz silver lunar scallop plum blossom flower tiger NGC PF 69 UC for $770 Jan 03, 2011
2007 1/4 oz silver 1989 25th anniversary panda NGC PF 70 UC for $53 Jan 02, 2011

Coins sold from the Recommended modern Chinese coin investments #24 article, total: $2408.11

2008 1 oz silver olympic kite flying NGC PF 70 UC for $88.01 Jan 02, 2011
2008 1 oz silver olympic goat jumping NGC PF 70 UC for $87.10 Jan 02, 2011
2008 1 oz silver olympic shuttlecock NGC PF 70 UC for $81 Jan 02, 2011
2008 1 oz silver olympic hoop rolling NGC PF 70 UC for $82.01 Jan 02, 2011
1996 1 oz silver small date panda NGC MS 69 for $99.99 Jan 01, 2011
1986 1/10 oz gold proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $280 Jan 01, 2011
1986 1/4 oz gold proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $540 Jan 01, 2011
1986 1/20 oz gold proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $150 Dec 31, 2010
1986 1/2 oz gold proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $1000 Dec 31, 2010

Coins sold from the Recommended modern Chinese coin investments #23 article, total: $2178

1996 1 oz silver small date panda NGC MS 69 for $85 Dec 31, 2010
1996 1 oz silver large date panda NGC MS 69 for $85 Dec 31, 2010
1992 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $449 Dec 31, 2010
1990 1/20 oz gold proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $298 Dec 31, 2010
1989 1/4 oz gold proof panda PCGS PR 69 DCAM for $598 Dec 31, 2010
2010 1 oz silver panda PCGS MS 70 for $95 Dec 31, 2010
1989 1/4 oz gold proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $568 Dec 30, 2010

Coins sold from the Recommended modern Chinese coin investments #22 article, total: $600.11

2007 1/25 oz gold 2004 15 yuan proof panda NGC PF 70 UC for $119.99 Dec 30, 2010
2010 1 oz silver panda PCGS MS 70 for $103.38 Dec 30, 2010
2010 1 oz silver panda PCGS MS 70 for $103.76 Dec 30, 2010
2010 1 oz silver panda PCGS MS 70 for $100.88 Dec 30, 2010
2009 1 oz silver panda NGC MS 70 for $86.05 Dec 29, 2010
2009 1 oz silver 30th anniversary panda NGC MS 70 for $86.05 Dec 29, 2010

Coins sold from the Recommended modern Chinese coin investments #21 article, total: $3975.38

2010 1 oz silver panda PCGS MS 70 for $101.88 Dec 29, 2010
2010 1 oz silver panda PCGS MS 70 for $108.50 Dec 29, 2010
1987 1/4 oz gold proof panda PCGS PR 69 DCAM for $550 Dec 28, 2010
1994 1 oz silver proof panda PCGS PR 69 DCAM for $1188 Dec 28, 2010
1995 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $799 Dec 28, 2010
1996 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $888 Dec 28, 2010
2003 1 oz silver panda NGC MS 70 for $340 Dec 28, 2010

Coins sold from the Recommended modern Chinese coin investments #20 article, total: $4541.93

1990 1/2 oz gold proof panda PCGS PR 69 DCAM for $1298 Dec 28, 2010
2009 1 oz gold panda NGC MS 70 for $1850 Dec 28, 2010
2010 1 oz silver panda PCGS MS 70 for $108.38 Dec 28, 2010
2010 1 oz silver panda PCGS MS 70 for $106.50 Dec 28, 2010
2010 1 oz silver panda PCGS MS 70 for $104.05 Dec 28, 2010
2010 1 oz silver panda PCGS MS 70 X 10 for $1075 Dec 28, 2010

Coins sold from the Recommended modern Chinese coin investments #19 - Don't buy ungraded coins article, total: $2316.24

1990 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $299 Dec 27, 2010
1992 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $399.99 Dec 27, 2010
2005 1/2 oz palladium panda NGC PF 70 UC for $1295 Dec 27, 2010
2010 1 oz silver panda PCGS MS 70 for $105.60 Dec 27, 2010
2010 1 oz silver panda PCGS MS 70 for $108.05 Dec 27, 2010
2010 1 oz silver panda NGC MS 70 for $108.60 Dec 27, 2010

Coins sold from the Recommended modern Chinese coin investments #18 article, total: $1716.48

1984 27 g silver panda NGC PF 69 UC for $1613.88 Dec 26, 2010
2010 1 oz silver panda PCGS MS 70 for $102.60 Dec 26, 2010

Coins sold from the Recommended modern Chinese coin investments - 2010-Dec-24 article, total: $2089.19 (passed $50k in sold recommended investments)

2010 1 oz silver scallop plum blossom flower tiger NGC PF 69 UC for $275 Dec 24, 2010
2010 1 oz silver panda PCGS MS 70 for $105.60 Dec 25, 2010
2010 1 oz silver panda PCGS MS 70 for $108.60 Dec 25, 2010
1995 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $799.99 Dec 24, 2010
2004 1/2 oz palladium panda NGC PF 69 UC for $800 Dec 24, 2010

Coins sold from the Recommended modern Chinese coin investments and commentary - 2010-Dec-23 article, total: $1901.60

1995 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $749 Dec 23, 2010
1996 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $569 Dec 23, 2010
2010 1 oz silver scallop plum blossom flower tiger NGC PF 69 UC for $275 Dec 23, 2010
2010 1 oz silver panda PCGS MS 70 for $103.60 Dec 23, 2010
2010 1 oz silver panda PCGS MS 70 for $102.50 Dec 23, 2010
2010 1 oz silver panda PCGS MS 70 for $102.50 Dec 23, 2010

Coins sold from the Recommended modern Chinese coin investments - 2010-Dec-21 article, total: $6892.07

1985 27 g proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $1619 Dec 22, 2010
1989 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $199.99 Dec 22, 2010
1990 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $268 Dec 22, 2010
1990 1 oz silver proof panda PCGS PR 69 DCAM for $305.02 Dec 22, 2010
1991 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $300.02 Dec 22, 2010
1995 1 oz silver pig NGC PF 69 UC for $970 Dec 22, 2010
1995 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $655 Dec 22, 2010
2006 1 oz silver panda NGC MS 69 for $61 Dec 22, 2010
2006 1 oz silver scallop plum blossom flower lunar dog NGC PF 69 UC for $280 Dec 22, 2010
2010 1 oz silver panda PCGS MS 70 for $102.50 Dec 22, 2010
2010 1 oz silver panda PCGS MS 70 for $105.54 Dec 22, 2010
1994 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $888 Dec 21, 2010
1996 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $569 X 2 Dec 21, 2010

Coins sold from the Recommended modern Chinese coin investments - 2010-Dec-20 article, total: $8762.24

1983 1 g gold Marco Polo NGC PF 69 UC for $402 Dec 20, 2010
1996 1 oz silver proof panda NGC PF 69 UC for $569 X 2 Dec 20, 2010
1997 1/2 oz gold scallop plum blossom flower lunar ox PCGS PR 69 DCAM for $2988 Dec 20, 2010
1998 1/2 oz gold scallop plum blossom flower lunar tiger NGC PF 69 UC for $3551 Dec 20, 2010
2010 1 oz silver panda NGC MS 70 for $66.89 Dec 20, 2010
2010 1 oz silver panda PCGS MS 70 for $97 Dec 20, 2010
2010 1 oz silver panda PCGS MS 70 for $109.50 Dec 20, 2010
2010 1 oz silver panda NGC MS 70 for $119 Dec 20, 2010
2010 1 oz silver panda PCGS MS 70 for $123.50 Dec 20, 2010
2010 1 oz silver panda PCGS MS 70 for $126.30 Dec 20, 2010
2010 1 oz silver panda PCGS MS 69 for $41.05 Dec 20, 2010

Coins sold from the Recommended modern Chinese coin investments - 2010-Dec-19 article, total: $16,422

1986 24 g silver empress of china clipper ship NGC MS 70 for $499.95 Dec 19, 2010
1988 1 oz silver dragon NGC PF 69 UC for $565.55 Dec 19, 2010
1988 8 g gold dragon NGC PF 69 UC for $1325 Dec 19, 2010
1989 1 oz gold snake NGC PF 69 UC for $4100 Dec 19, 2010
1989 8 g gold snake NGC PF 69 UC for $965 Dec 19, 2010
1998 1/2 oz gold small date panda NGC MS 69 for $6087 Dec 19, 2010
1999 1 oz gold small date panda for $2351.99 Dec 19, 2010
2001-D 1 oz silver panda PCGS MS 69 for $160 Dec 19, 2010
2001-D 1 oz silver panda PCGS MS 69 for $144.99 X 2 Dec 19, 2010
2010 1 oz silver panda PCGS MS 70 for $125 Dec 19, 2010
2010 1 oz silver panda PCGS MS 70 for $97.50  Dec 19, 2010

Coins sold from older articles, total: $14,463

2008 1 oz silver panda NGC MS 70 for $150 Dec 18, 2010 (LBC makes me rich)
2010 1 oz silver panda NGC MS 69 for $42.05 Dec 18, 2010
2009 1 oz silver 30th anniversary pandas NGC MS 69 X 10 for $510.95 Dec 16, 2010
1986 5 yuan soccer NGC PF 69 matte KM-140A for $3950 Dec 15, 2010
1987 5 oz silver panda NGC PF 69 UC for $800 Dec 12, 2010
1989 5 oz silver panda NGC PF 69 UC for $960 Dec 12, 2010
2000 1/2 oz gold scallop lunar dragon PCGS PF 69 DCAM for $5895 Dec 12, 2010
2010 1 oz silver panda PCGS MS 70 for $105 Dec 10, 2010
2010 1 oz silver panda PCGS MS 70 for $125 Dec 08, 2010 (LBC makes me rich)
2010 1 oz silver panda PCGS MS 70 for $125 Dec 08, 2010
1983 silver proof panda for $1800 Dec 06, 2010
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« Reply #2 on: 2011 Apr 03, 07:15:54 pm »

$2388 for a 1983 CHINA S5Y MARCO POLO, NGC PF 69 ULTRA CAMEO, RARE!! How rare is Mr. Polo? Wow. How $$ will Khan PF69 be???
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« Reply #3 on: 2011 Apr 03, 07:24:37 pm »

It's way too expensive. It is quite rare in high grade, but I think somebody will list one much cheaper eventually. I think you should be able to get it for between $200 and $500 once one appears for a reasonable price.

I don't know what a Kublai Khan would be worth if it appeared in a 69 grade, but I'm guessing you could probably get it for $400 to $800. I would not be at all surprised to see it sell for around $1500 though. It's worthy of an even higher price than that. Of course, it depends on the variety too, but either way, it's a valuable one.
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« Reply #4 on: 2011 Apr 03, 07:35:23 pm »

it could be a typo ! $2388!!
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« Reply #5 on: 2011 Apr 03, 07:38:10 pm »

I don't think it's a typo. It is a very rare coin, and it will certainly be worth that much or more in the future, but I wouldn't pay that much, and I didn't put it in my list because of that. I'm not afraid to "overpay" a little for a good investment coin, but I'm not stupid either Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: 2011 Apr 03, 08:07:46 pm »

thank you badon; i enjoyed reading this newsletter, but i have a feeling you have much more up your sleeve and you are pacing yourself lol
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« Reply #7 on: 2011 Apr 03, 08:10:01 pm »

Heh, yeah. And, keep in mind this is still just the draft. I'm going to change a few things before I actually make it live so everyone can see it.

The things I have up my sleeve are going to keep everyone busy with something to make money on while everyone else worries about slowdowns, bubbles, etc Smiley I can only pack so much in one article!
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« Reply #8 on: 2011 Apr 03, 08:30:01 pm »

I can't believe it, as much as I've written already, and I'm still writing more. I just added another section to the draft that I'll update in a few minutes.
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« Reply #9 on: 2011 Apr 03, 09:25:49 pm »

OK, it's finally published. Enjoy!
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